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« Reply #250 on: January 20, 2018, 07:04:35 AM »
Looking good JR.   Explain what you mean on the power wiring?
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« Reply #251 on: January 20, 2018, 01:56:34 PM »
Looking good JR.   Explain what you mean on the power wiring?

Just keeping circuts seperate. Bathroom and AC pump on one, most outlets/lights (led pod) on another and one more for the indoor HVAC head and one 20amp outlet. The last is near the stairway which may be used for a house fan later. 
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« Reply #252 on: January 22, 2018, 12:51:01 PM »
Wish I had more to report, weekends are busy. When the kids are home I get a couple hours after they go to sleep is about it. Wife looks to be going back to her day shift and is happy. Couple weeks out but hope to be close to done by then.

Lost power to a line in the laundry room, have to figure that out but rewire options pretty easy.

Got the trim for the windows cut out. Need to prime-paint and install.
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« Reply #253 on: January 26, 2018, 12:49:25 PM »
Starting on the sheetrock downstairs and new led lights in the laundry. Need to figure out the hall 3-way too.

Got some funny white stuff yesterday for around 10 minutes. Sure it is nothing like TX, but good for here.
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« Reply #254 on: January 30, 2018, 09:23:11 PM »
Been working on it but few pics.

Ran the bathroom vent outside finally and added a Y for the new bathroom.

Got some shielded 16/2 for the LED lights and ran power for the HVAC.

Soffits are in so I can start insulating the roof and not worry about critters getting in there.

Closet framing is next, getting close.
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« Reply #255 on: January 31, 2018, 08:51:24 PM »
Well, got a few pics to backup the claims above.

Soffits came out good I think, I'm happy with them.

Sealed up and insulated the wall, now the closet and sheetrock.
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« Reply #256 on: January 31, 2018, 08:59:11 PM »
Too lazy to read. Did you find and fix the leak?


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« Reply #257 on: January 31, 2018, 09:52:22 PM »
Too lazy to read. Did you find and fix the leak?


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Working on it now. I half arsed it the first time and the fix just puddled it. Have a clear week so good to go.
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« Reply #258 on: February 01, 2018, 10:59:26 PM »
Wonder why it leaked?  :undecided:
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« Reply #259 on: February 02, 2018, 10:20:52 PM »
Did a lot of cleanup and ordered a custom mirrored door since I just have 74in where it is going with the low ceiling.

Sistered above the 2 door openings since it was never designed for them and I will be cutting into the header for the stairway opening.
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« Reply #260 on: February 05, 2018, 02:03:33 AM »
Got the soffets finished and the new pod lights came in.
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« Reply #261 on: February 05, 2018, 11:01:02 PM »
What pod lights did you go with Jr?


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« Reply #262 on: February 07, 2018, 12:57:31 AM »
What pod lights did you go with Jr?


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Got some flush fitting ones that run off 12v DC. Each have their own converter but I am running a main converter and running the 12v to each light. No bulky boxes and the converter will be in the closet with easy access.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CHVKDF6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Simply drill a hole in the sheetrock, hook up the 12v and push the light in. Insulation stays tight and you can mount anywhere. I put two 9watt of these in the laundry room and they are bright! This room gets 6 so I went with 6watt that are dimable, plus a central ceiling fan with LED.
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« Reply #263 on: February 07, 2018, 08:30:56 AM »
Man those are super cool! would have been really nice back in '99 when I was running a dozen plus standard can lights in my parents basement. Cutting holes out with a dremel looking up at your work and wearing sheetrock dust like a clothing style is not the ideal way to do things.
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« Reply #264 on: February 07, 2018, 11:05:35 AM »
I just run shielded audio cable to each light with new plugs.

When cutting overhead, just get an old plastic container and cut to fit the tool.
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« Reply #265 on: February 09, 2018, 08:08:50 AM »
Overhead cutting in sheetrock or hardi is best left to the new guy and the biggest reason every site needs a new guy. Or a son.

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« Reply #266 on: February 09, 2018, 09:31:54 AM »
How many of those pod lights can you run off a single converter?  I can see multiple locations in my house I would like to add them.  And you if I read correctly, you are just running shielded audio/speaker wire from the converter to the lights?

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« Reply #267 on: February 09, 2018, 11:17:10 AM »
Overhead cutting in sheetrock or hardi is best left to the new guy and the biggest reason every site needs a new guy. Or a son.

Which is why it fell to me, lol.
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« Reply #268 on: February 09, 2018, 03:50:29 PM »
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« Reply #269 on: February 09, 2018, 05:51:35 PM »
Overhead cutting in sheetrock or hardi is best left to the new guy and the biggest reason every site needs a new guy. Or a son.

unless you have one of these


they make them with a carbide cutter that will work on hardie too.
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« Reply #270 on: February 09, 2018, 06:31:05 PM »
man that's cool!
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« Reply #271 on: February 11, 2018, 09:56:04 PM »
Got some done this weekend.

Closet framing finished. Got sheetrock upstairs (13) and new 30in door.

Removed the folding pull down stairs and relocated the HF hoist (best $50 I ever spent!), now centered over 28x54 opening. Cut a panel to fill it but still needs a frame and not sure which end to hinge.
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« Reply #272 on: February 12, 2018, 08:04:50 AM »
Love those little hoists!  Had one at the lake house years ago on a little jib that I used to life the Seadoo out of the water
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« Reply #273 on: February 12, 2018, 03:03:07 PM »
Yep, single line 440 lbs. This is like 20 years old.
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« Reply #274 on: February 15, 2018, 11:18:11 AM »
Ran the conduit down and through the solar inverter. This was the last wire that will run the AC head and a 20amp outlet with USB.

LED, insulation and sheetrock this week!
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« Reply #275 on: February 22, 2018, 01:31:40 AM »
Finished the LED wiring and the insulation. Still have not found the correct convertor for the LEDs. They work fine with the stock driver, just 5.8 watts for 2 lights (4000k each).
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« Reply #276 on: February 22, 2018, 01:41:06 AM »
I have a 2A 12v driver for the LEDs in the top box. It also has an on/off for the fan. So far it does not run the LEDs. Puts out 12v, but lights don't, well light!

Lower has a 3 button switch for the LEDs so each row can be on/off and there is a dimmer on the main switch. Fan has a separate remote with its own LED.

Got up a little sheetrock, hopefully finish that tomorrow. No texture for this room, hope I can do that justice with my mudding.

Opened up the wall for the new door. This will allow a 3 foot landing, a closet to the right, new room U turn to the left and 1/2 bath to the left.

This will all be closed off via a barn door to the rest of the upstairs.
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« Reply #277 on: February 23, 2018, 12:50:11 AM »
Dunno why you don?t just put in standard 110v cans with LED bulbs so that you don?t have something out of the ordinary for the next person that buys the house?


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« Reply #278 on: February 23, 2018, 07:19:05 PM »
Didn't want the big ol cans going through my 7in insulation and these were 1/4 the price and simply fit in the hole you cut out of the sheetrock.
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« Reply #279 on: February 23, 2018, 11:54:14 PM »
Got the old doorway covered and the AC mount on. Compressor is on it, just no pic.
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« Reply #280 on: February 24, 2018, 08:50:20 AM »
What mini split did you use?


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« Reply #281 on: February 24, 2018, 01:03:36 PM »
Its a Senville unit I got off Ebay for $580 with a longer hose kit. Feed back was good, shipping was free and it is a 15.2 seer.

Comp is 24x30 and the head unit is 24x8x8 with remote.

Drilled the last hole for the lines last night and will run the hose later today and finish the sheetrock.
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« Reply #282 on: February 24, 2018, 01:11:10 PM »
Here is the basic layout for the HVAC split unit.

Need to redo this as the built in shelves are gone and the sink is on the other side of the of the bathroom with the wall kicked out about 6 inches.
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« Reply #283 on: February 24, 2018, 04:05:53 PM »
Help me understand how you put it on an interior wall and get the drain run back to the outside.


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« Reply #284 on: February 24, 2018, 04:18:42 PM »
The units mount as any split system does. Standard lines were 16ft, I got 25ft lines.

Ext unit has a bottom drain right onto the roof, but I will run a short line from there to the gutter.

Interior unit has a drain and there is vent line from the washer/dryer under it so it will be plumbed into that. I could drain it to the roof also, but the vent being there should work great.
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« Reply #285 on: February 24, 2018, 04:23:01 PM »
Just dropped $450 on vinyl flooring for it and the bathroom. Floating floor with built in underlament.

Closet doors came in also.
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« Reply #286 on: February 24, 2018, 06:25:03 PM »
Coming together..... :likebutton:
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« Reply #287 on: February 24, 2018, 11:25:14 PM »
HVAC lines pulled through.
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« Reply #288 on: February 25, 2018, 08:48:53 AM »
really interested in the flaring and pressure testing process JR.  Looking forward to updates.
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« Reply #289 on: February 25, 2018, 09:31:25 AM »
That looks like a pretty fast system to install.  What?s the estimated power consumption in a year?


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« Reply #290 on: February 25, 2018, 07:33:03 PM »
I think it said $90. This will be a hot room to, same reason I went with high end insulation.

The head unit is on a semi outside wall which works well to hide the lines. The stairway wall will end up being around 6 thick when finished with pipes/venting and AC lines.
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« Reply #291 on: February 26, 2018, 06:47:19 AM »
The units mount as any split system does. Standard lines were 16ft, I got 25ft lines.

Ext unit has a bottom drain right onto the roof, but I will run a short line from there to the gutter.

Interior unit has a drain and there is vent line from the washer/dryer under it so it will be plumbed into that. I could drain it to the roof also, but the vent being there should work great.

Unless you're going to trap the condensate line, I'd dump it outside. You don't want sewer gasses coming into the unit & being spread all over the room.

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« Reply #292 on: February 26, 2018, 08:48:36 AM »
Hopefully his drain is code... should be fine with a peatrap.


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« Reply #293 on: February 26, 2018, 01:24:04 PM »
Some sort of valve will be required as it states do not trap the drain line, must flow free. Should be as easy as a flapper like we have on our air cleaners.
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« Reply #294 on: February 26, 2018, 08:23:17 PM »
most washer drain lines are already trapped since the discharge nozzle does not seal against the drain so dumping more water into the drain should not present a problem.  Its how I have my whole house dehumidifier plumbed into the washer drain.
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« Reply #295 on: February 26, 2018, 09:31:39 PM »
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« Reply #296 on: February 27, 2018, 02:59:11 PM »
I get the nice odor from the pipe now so a valve will good a good idea.
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« Reply #297 on: March 03, 2018, 07:46:33 PM »
Been working on this and it is going good.

Sheetrock is up sans the closet, will finish that tonight.

The LED drivers I bought to run it all do not work. Will us the little drivers that came with them. Two LEDs seem to work fine on the 1 stock 300ma driver.
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« Reply #298 on: March 03, 2018, 09:19:54 PM »
Turning out to be quiet the peaceful get away for the daughter.   


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« Reply #299 on: March 03, 2018, 09:53:33 PM »
He he, me too. I like being busy and will glad when this is done.

Right now it really echos in there but some furniture will help.
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