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Some of you fine folks have seen my other thread about this.http://real-man-truckworks-and-survival.com/index.php?topic=2610.0

I figured I'd start one in here, because I'm getting work done,  plus I'm hoping that posting here helps me stay motivated.

My goal is to have this thing driving by June. I'm sick of it being in my garage, and having to rent a trailer when I need something moved.

I've reached a point where I don't know what to do so I'm putting it back together. This will probably bite me at some point, but I need to be making some kind of progress.

I'm sorry my first post in the build thread is a question, and I don't have many pics.  I'll try to get better about taking pics as I work.

I'm getting ready to set the body back down on the frame, but I'm using new body mounts from prothane.  The directions that came with the kit are either wrong or terrible, so I'm not really sure what goes where.

I'm hoping someone here is familiar with these and can point out where each one goes.

I'm thinking the tapered ones are for the cab and the thin ones go under the frame on those.  I have no idea where the other 4 go.  Any help is appreciated.

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I think the four tapered ones are for the cab.
That's where I placed my tapered ones

Suggestion: Get some of that poly grease made for these bushings and coat the snot out of them. Before you snug everything down. it allows some wiggle room to move the cab around before permanizing it. Secondly, poly squeaks. This grease prevents that from happening a couple years down the road.
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Thanks. Did you just put grease on the sleeves, or between the bushings and washers/cab/frame?

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Thanks. Did you just put grease on the sleeves, or between the bushings and washers/cab/frame?
Bushing, both sides of the big flat washers, and I put red grease on the bolt threads and on the underside of the bolt head
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I have never used Poly Bushings on any of my builds. But the OEM rubber bushings under the cab are two pieces. The tapered side is under the mount, the flatter is between the cab/body. If it wasn't a blizzard here I could snap some pics. But we should figure this out... my present project is going to need a set soon.

As for motivation... I will race yah, mines just a bare frame ATM lol And it needs to be running by June also.

Whats worse my wife has two of her projects taking up space in my shop...and she just bought a third one.
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I have never used Poly Bushings on any of my builds. But the OEM rubber bushings under the cab are two pieces. The tapered side is under the mount, the flatter is between the cab/body. If it wasn't a blizzard here I could snap some pics. But we should figure this out... my present project is going to need a set soon.

As for motivation... I will race yah, mines just a bare frame ATM lol And it needs to be running by June also.

Whats worse my wife has two of her projects taking up space in my shop...and she just bought a third one.
Hell, for all I know, I have the wrong bushings in mine, or don't have enough, or they are upside down!
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So for many of the dodges it seems there is a limited offering for ?off the shelf? poly bushings.  I bought a set for our 74, that could also have been used on the 92 parts truck.

I could look at the factory stuff on the 74 parts truck when I get back to the house and take some pictures.

I was just gonna make it work, cause I didn?t know what went where either and the sheet of paper in the box didn?t help much.


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Any pics would help.  The factory ones looked like over grilled hamburger patties. Lol

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Here ya go.... OEM Dodge

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Thanks for the pic, but I don't think that'll help much.  The poly ones look much different.  Maybe they were mis packaged.

I'm going to re read the directions and see if I can make sense of them again.

ETA: after looking at the pieces again, I think I have the right parts, and the directions are definitely wrong.  The thick and thinner cylindrical pieces I believe go on the frame/under the cab.(thin in front, thick in rear) the tapered ones go under the frame. I have no idea where the little ones go, and the metal sleeves don't fit over the bolts.

I'm going to call prothane tomorrow. Lol
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I called prothane today, and their office is only open Monday through Thursday :angry:

I'm not sure what to do at this point.  I don't want to waste a weekend.

Maybe I'll start wiring the steering column?

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I just got done talking to prothane on the phone. All they have for directions is a generic set, no detailed instructions are available.

I guess I'll have to wing it.  What's the worst that could happen?lol

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I just got done talking to prothane on the phone. All they have for directions is a generic set, no detailed instructions are available.

I guess I'll have to wing it.  What's the worst that could happen?lol

Tac topper & SQ D both come to mind...... :tongue:

& yeah guaranteed if I?m not currently fired I will be shortly
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I just went ahead and bolted the cab back on the frame.  I stuck the thinner mounts under the front of the cab, thicker ones under the rear.  I put the tapered bushings under the frame brackets and bolted everything down.  Plenty of grease anywhere stuff may rub.

I started looking at wiring the steering column, but my book doesn't have the wiring diagram for the steering column on the later trucks, so I'll probably just wait until I have the battery in and everything else hooked up to figure out the wiring on the column.

I feel like I'm making a little progress. I'm trying to finish something, no matter how small each time I work on it. 

One thing I've overlooked at this point is all of the vacuum switches and junk for the 4x4 that I won't be using, and the vacuum actuator for the front axle.(can I just jam the collar in "locked" and put manual hubs one?)

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what are you running for a front axle? dana 44 or dana 60? there's a company called posi-lok that makes a cable actuated system that eliminates the vacuum version, or if it's a mid nineties dana 60, I have a CAD delete that replaces the 3 piece axle system w/ a single solid shaft, blocks off the vacuum motor area and then you could convert to manual hubs.
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It's a 44 in the front.  I'll take a look at the posi lock. 

Thanks!

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What year is your steering column? I?ve got a  digital service manual for 92 and another for 93.

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I believe it's an 86 or 87. I'd appreciate a look at the diagram, just in case it's the same as what I've got.

I'm thinking about seeing if I can just swap the whole harness.

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I got my column wiring figured out.  I was going to swap the harnesses, but after I had the old one out I found the turn signal switch was broken.

Since I ended up with both harnesses out, it was easy to figure out what wire needed to go where.  I just soldered the old plug onto the new harness.

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Re: 74 d200/w250. I'm not sure what to name it, but I'm sorry I started it.
« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2018, 12:10:20 PM »
 I didn't forget about this!

Shortly after figuring out my wiring harness for the steering column I had to go to Poland for work for a couple of months.  That gave the project much needed break and financial injection.

After I got back in July I hit it pretty hard.  I didn't really have any hickups in getting stuff back together.  I've been finding stuff that needs to be repaired or replaced along the way, but overall I think I'm doing well.  I just got it licensed and insured yesterday, so today I'm going to take it on it's first trip out of the neighborhood in 4 years. Lol.

I need to get a new distributor before I take it too far, because tge vacuum diaphragm is bad in both of the ones I have.  I also found the heater core and the control valve are leaking, so I'll have to get those fixed sooner rather than later as well. It also still has a rather large hole in the floor from cutting it to clear the manual transmission, but I want to take it to a friend's house who is mych more familiar with that kind of thing than I am.  Conveniently, the donor truck is at his house as well.  I was also disappointed to find  that in the set of tires I planned on using one has a plug in the inside sidewall, so I'll have to get tires soon as well.

I also still have to service the axles, t-case and transmission.  This works out, because both axles decided to start leaking from the covers since I've been moving it around a bit.

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Re: 74 d200/w250. I'm not sure what to name it, but I'm sorry I started it.
« Reply #20 on: October 28, 2018, 08:02:07 AM »
Sweet! Progress!


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Re: 74 d200/w250. I'm not sure what to name it, but I'm sorry I started it.
« Reply #21 on: October 30, 2018, 07:26:40 PM »
I was successful in taking the truck up to get fuel on Saturday.  I had it up to 55mph. There weren't any vibrations or pulling or anything, I was surprised by that to be honest.  I do think I'm going to be wishing for more gears, or different axle gears before too long. The first gear in the 4 speed is basically useless, and second gear is about how a first gear should be.

I'm pretty happy with how it's going so far though.

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Re: 74 d200/w250. I'm not sure what to name it, but I'm sorry I started it.
« Reply #22 on: October 30, 2018, 08:56:57 PM »
Taller tires will fix that gear issue.....
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Re: 74 d200/w250. I'm not sure what to name it, but I'm sorry I started it.
« Reply #23 on: October 31, 2018, 03:32:54 AM »
Taller tires would help, but I don't want to make the truck any taller.  When it was a 2wd I could step on to the tailgate with a round of firewood in my arms and stack it in the back, and the tailgate was the right height to roll the rounds onto my splitter.  I just got sick of dragging the hitch all the time, and there was the one time I got stuck in the back yard. Lol

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Re: 74 d200/w250. I'm not sure what to name it, but I'm sorry I started it.
« Reply #24 on: October 31, 2018, 09:16:22 AM »
I was thinking a 3? larger diameter tire so maybe 1.5? taller, no lift and if you need fender clearance there is always a sawzall!  :facepalm:
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Re: 74 d200/w250. I'm not sure what to name it, but I'm sorry I started it.
« Reply #25 on: November 02, 2018, 10:48:48 PM »
I actually used the truck today. I had a bin full of glass to take up to the recycle collection point.(no curbside pickup for glass here).  About 3 miles round-trip.

I'm planning on a dump run tomorrow.  That'll be about 30 miles round-trip. I'm a little scared to take it that far. Lol

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Re: 74 d200/w250. I'm not sure what to name it, but I'm sorry I started it.
« Reply #26 on: November 03, 2018, 11:05:01 AM »
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Re: 74 d200/w250. I'm not sure what to name it, but I'm sorry I started it.
« Reply #27 on: November 03, 2018, 06:45:14 PM »
Well, the trip to the dump is done. The truck made it ok, but there are a few things that came up that need to be addressed.

I think I'm going to order a 12 circuit fuse panel that uses blade fuses.  The panel thats in there is an awesome combination of melted and rusted that's causing all kinds of intermittent electrical problems. I was kind of hoping to find a whole new harness with an updated fuse panel, but I haven't had luck finding one.(admittedly, I haven't expended a ton of energy on looking). I also need to get the floor done.  It was raining, so I got splashed by a few puddles. Lol. I'm also hoping that getting the floor closed up will quiet the cab down a bit, as it's pretty loud.  I also need to get some of the hoses for the heating ducts, because mine are pretty torn up.

Overall, the trip went well for a shake down run.

Has anyone tried one of the distributors that use a GM  hei cap and coil?  I saw one on Amazon for under $100 and I'm thinking about giving it a try to simply the ignition system.