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Re: Wood Fired Boiler Install
« Reply #100 on: October 06, 2018, 06:14:07 PM »
These chemicals keep the water corrosive free and provide for very long life for the boiler
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« Reply #101 on: October 06, 2018, 06:15:18 PM »
Here is a handy tool that comes with the unit. It is a coal rake used to pull the scattered embers forward into a pile during the daily recontouring of the ember pile
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« Reply #102 on: October 06, 2018, 06:16:23 PM »
The roof is aluminum, very shiney please!

I'll likely darken mine to keep enemy bombers from getting a good aiming point!
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« Reply #103 on: October 06, 2018, 06:18:58 PM »
That exhaust stack is 8" and soon will be capped with 8" stove pipe sections set about in a reckless and haphazard manner!

The rectangular panel at the bottom of the back side is where the pumps and valves are attached and will live a happy life. Tim says the pumps generally last 10 years or more and dray 1.9 amps each. They will run 24/7
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Re: Wood Fired Boiler Install
« Reply #104 on: October 06, 2018, 06:20:21 PM »
Not related, but here is a stack of my next adirondack chairs. But if I'm not fast enough, these could be the next day's worth of heat! Yikes!
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« Reply #105 on: October 06, 2018, 08:10:41 PM »
That boiler looks like a keeper.


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Re: Wood Fired Boiler Install
« Reply #106 on: October 06, 2018, 10:21:23 PM »
That boiler looks like a keeper.


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I think so

The steel I am seeing is 3/8" thick, some pretty stout stuff

The weight of the boiler, empty of water is 1,800 lbs
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« Reply #107 on: October 06, 2018, 10:28:21 PM »
I wouldn?t be surprised if it?s 3/8 as you stated it was a recycled pane tank. My first shop had a 1/4? plate wood stove (I built it) & I had the top cherry red many times but never burnt it out in 7 years....
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« Reply #108 on: October 06, 2018, 11:23:46 PM »
Saw that nice roof first thing. No leaks there!!

So when you firing that still up?
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Re: Wood Fired Boiler Install
« Reply #109 on: October 07, 2018, 10:59:08 AM »
Saw that nice roof first thing. No leaks there!!

So when you firing that still up?
Still!
Ha!
Hadn't thought of that!
Always wanted to build one, but problem is I don't really drink
But, I always thought it would be cool to see if I could make alcohol for fuel
More of a "Science project" thing than anything else, but would be fun
But no cookin for this thing, just boring old heat. Should see some coals by month's end.
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« Reply #110 on: October 07, 2018, 02:18:19 PM »
I?d be interested to see how the final install looks and operates, sounds like something that would work for my place as well. Boiler looks to be well constructed and finished.


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« Reply #111 on: October 07, 2018, 08:13:32 PM »
Lets get some more stuff done

Object of today is to get the heater finished off and hopefully get most of the garage heater installed

The 20 plate water heater heat exchanger is ready for connections
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« Reply #112 on: October 07, 2018, 08:14:26 PM »
If you need to cut this PEX or PVC correctly, I'd recommend purchasing some ratcheting cutters designed for PVC
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« Reply #113 on: October 07, 2018, 08:15:13 PM »
After cutting into the supply line and rearranging things, here is what I ended up with:
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« Reply #114 on: October 07, 2018, 08:16:45 PM »
The 2 X 6 adds stability to the PVC lines. I used a metal strap/clamp to secure the feed line to the wall via the short piece of 2-by

That finishes up the hot water heater install
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« Reply #115 on: October 07, 2018, 08:18:13 PM »
Now on to the small garage heater

This unit is rated at 50,000 BTU and should handle the Frau's 24 X 24 X 10 garage
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« Reply #116 on: October 07, 2018, 08:19:44 PM »
I had to sweat two 1" NPT male adapters onto the copper stubbs
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« Reply #117 on: October 07, 2018, 08:21:10 PM »
To create a mount, I cut a piece of 2 X 12 which I then bolted to the top with some lengths of all thread and two carriage bolts
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« Reply #118 on: October 07, 2018, 08:22:52 PM »
Then the wall mount was created. The thing is not too heavy but heavy enough for me to pay attention. I'll screw it to the wall in several places then likely add a chain screwed into the roof to take the stress off the wall
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« Reply #119 on: October 07, 2018, 08:25:24 PM »
After measuring the house a bunch of times and creating a detailed sketch of where things were located, I marked those locations onto the wall then chose a spot to make some holes to route the PEX into her garage from below and up to the heater unit

The smallish piece of CPVC is only a probe used to mark and identify the hole I just drilled. It came out in about a perfect place!
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« Reply #120 on: October 07, 2018, 08:47:34 PM »
I?ll tell you that one of the best gifts I ever got was one of those ratcheting cutters!!!

Heating the garage does not really compute. I?m not sure they make a wood fired AC for my house....


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Re: Wood Fired Boiler Install
« Reply #121 on: October 07, 2018, 09:09:16 PM »
I bought one of those ratcheting cutters when I bought a bunch of pvc for the kids to play with and creat things. I cut a bunch of pieces for them to have of different length. My hands were killing me afterwards, but I think I did about 70 cuts to get all the pieces I wanted done.  Clean cuts and no mess.


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« Reply #122 on: October 08, 2018, 09:52:08 AM »
I?ll tell you that one of the best gifts I ever got was one of those ratcheting cutters!!!

Heating the garage does not really compute. I?m not sure they make a wood fired AC for my house....


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And, really, the extra heat is free!
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« Reply #123 on: October 08, 2018, 10:24:12 AM »
I think my point was it doesn?t get cold here. I need AC in my garage....


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« Reply #124 on: October 08, 2018, 10:31:05 AM »
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« Reply #125 on: October 08, 2018, 01:52:28 PM »
TRN, you mean it doesn't get "that cold". Funny I have to both heat and cool mine.

Don, in post 119 it looks like that small drain line is going up before it attaches to the main line. Is that the picture or an issue?

I have a big set and a small set of those cutters, work good.
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« Reply #126 on: October 08, 2018, 03:46:53 PM »
TRN, you mean it doesn't get "that cold". Funny I have to both heat and cool mine.

Don, in post 119 it looks like that small drain line is going up before it attaches to the main line. Is that the picture or an issue?

I have a big set and a small set of those cutters, work good.
JR, Looking at that post all I see is the smallish piece of 1/2" CPVC that is sticking up through a hole. THat will not be used for anything, i just shoved it through there so I could easily see the exit hole on the garage side...
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« Reply #127 on: October 08, 2018, 05:03:36 PM »
I was referring to the pvc drain line, not your new stuff.
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« Reply #128 on: October 08, 2018, 07:22:34 PM »
I think JR is referring to the line next to your probe. It doesn't look like it has any drop to it...horizontally, left to right.
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« Reply #129 on: October 08, 2018, 09:58:15 PM »
I think JR is referring to the line next to your probe. It doesn't look like it has any drop to it...horizontally, left to right.


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« Reply #130 on: October 09, 2018, 12:03:18 PM »
I think JR is referring to the line next to your probe. It doesn't look like it has any drop to it...horizontally, left to right.
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« Reply #131 on: October 09, 2018, 12:51:29 PM »
Here, I am bringing the supply line from the water heater plate unit to its final date with destiny, the small garage heater
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« Reply #132 on: October 09, 2018, 12:53:49 PM »
I then installed the PEX female to 1" NPT fittings onto the heater unit in preparation to hang it
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« Reply #133 on: October 09, 2018, 12:55:46 PM »
The supply line pulled through the wall. It will be cut off and fitted with a 90 degree fitting to help tuck it in closer to the wall.

I could not run the lines inside of the wall because they are stuffed with insulation, so this is the next best thing.
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« Reply #134 on: October 09, 2018, 12:56:42 PM »
Then I mounted the heater a good distance from the ceiling and floor
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« Reply #135 on: October 09, 2018, 12:57:56 PM »
In addition to catching three studs with several screws each, I also mounted a cable support to carry some of the weight
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« Reply #136 on: October 09, 2018, 01:00:08 PM »
Then came the easy part, hooking up the supply and return lines and zip-tying those together.

All that is left to do here is run some romex and add in an outlet so I can plug the thing in
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« Reply #137 on: October 09, 2018, 01:01:48 PM »
These fittings are way big and take a lot of heat, so I picked up a MAP torch to accommodate

New tools are nice!
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« Reply #138 on: October 09, 2018, 01:03:06 PM »
This is the main heat exchanger for the lower unit. I soldered and screwed on the required fittings in preparation to install that unit for good
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« Reply #139 on: October 09, 2018, 01:04:50 PM »
I then went onto some experimentation of what a wood cover might look like. I am looking at some easier way to be able to R&R the unit in the future or pull it for cleaning. Something screwed together would meet that requirement
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« Reply #140 on: October 09, 2018, 01:08:03 PM »
I do not know if I will end up going with that, but I may.

So, I crimped on the hot water supply lines to the unit and placed it in the plenum where it will live. Just a little tape will seal that thing, so the jury is out on how best to do it at the moment. The long lines allow me to slide the thing out without having to disconnect anything.

The air filter is installed and temporarily covered with a narrow strip of pine
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« Reply #141 on: October 09, 2018, 01:10:16 PM »
So these two lines will connect to the buried line from the boiler and complete the plumbing circuit.

So if you were setting up a smaller house with just one heater, you would be nearly done at this point

But for me, I have the second loop to install yet, and its going to be much more difficult. I am NOT looking forward to working on that.
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« Reply #142 on: October 09, 2018, 01:28:10 PM »
Nice job so far.

Be careful of those pipes by the fuse panel. They get touchy about that sometimes.
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Re: Wood Fired Boiler Install
« Reply #143 on: October 09, 2018, 02:45:48 PM »
Nice job so far.

Be careful of those pipes by the fuse panel. They get touchy about that sometimes.
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« Reply #144 on: October 10, 2018, 01:13:44 AM »
Didn't figure any inspection.
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« Reply #145 on: October 10, 2018, 08:50:34 AM »
Inspections.....

I think we?re more critical than most inspectors!
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« Reply #146 on: October 10, 2018, 09:06:06 AM »
Inspections.....

I think we?re more critical than most inspectors!
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That's a good thing
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Re: Wood Fired Boiler Install
« Reply #147 on: October 10, 2018, 09:51:35 AM »
Just some boring stuff...

Ran the electrical line for the small garage heater

I put a master switch in the circuit then a GFCI plug receptacle. I ran a 20 amp circuit which I think will be plenty. Both pumps of the boiler pull 1.9 amps each. Then there's the solenoid which will operate some of the time, then the two fan motors which also pull a low amperage
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Re: Wood Fired Boiler Install
« Reply #148 on: October 10, 2018, 10:45:44 AM »
Hmmm, got a sideways pic...Well, I don't care!

Just like HD not to have the receptacle cover I needed

I'll cover this up in the days to come
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Re: Wood Fired Boiler Install
« Reply #149 on: October 10, 2018, 10:47:45 AM »
The lines are collecting here but this will all tidy up as I make the connections to the exterior

I ran a 12-2 wire and picked up a compatible breaker for the panel to complete the circuit
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