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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #750 on: May 15, 2019, 09:43:57 PM »
I slightly enlarged the interior cavity to clear the radio
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #751 on: May 15, 2019, 09:45:42 PM »
And that is fitting pretty well
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #752 on: May 15, 2019, 09:47:36 PM »
The shelf on top is a catch all so I wanted to match it to the rubber poured into the center console tray. I did and placed the rubber drawer liner on top of the wet rubber.
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #753 on: May 15, 2019, 09:49:20 PM »
Then the small Sirius receiver and antenna was wired in
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #754 on: May 15, 2019, 09:51:23 PM »
After 12 hours of drying the rubber had cured and the assembly is almost ready to replace.

I plan to bed the radio in some spray foam when reassembling to lock it into place and strengthen everything
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #755 on: May 15, 2019, 09:52:45 PM »
In this pic the rear Sub-Woofer is all but wired in, lacking only the RCA cables which also require an adapter harness which I did not receive. It is due to come in tomorrow
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #756 on: May 15, 2019, 09:54:29 PM »
I used a large properly sized inline fuse for the unit to protect the circuit and woofer
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #757 on: May 15, 2019, 09:56:02 PM »
I ran an 8 gage wire into the cabin, then soldered on several branches to which I can later attach and power future items, along with powering the things I need to power up right now.
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #758 on: May 15, 2019, 09:58:14 PM »
The sirius radio and wiring bundle was velcroed out of the way in the CB radio compartment
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #759 on: May 15, 2019, 10:01:22 PM »
Infinity supplied the four channel amplifier. I purchased a nifty 9-wire cable that keeps the wires for the four speakers tightly bundled and provides a blue wire to remotely power up your amps, sub woofers, or whatever when the radio is turned on
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #760 on: May 15, 2019, 10:02:41 PM »
I ran two ground wires just to be sure.

Then the RCA cables get figured out and routed all over creation then plugged in the receiver head and the amplifier
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #761 on: May 15, 2019, 10:03:59 PM »
At this point a lot of stuff is either removed or disconnected...
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #762 on: May 15, 2019, 10:04:45 PM »
And this aux electrical panel is starting to get busy
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #763 on: May 15, 2019, 10:06:21 PM »
To install the remote microphone for voice commands, I removed the A-pillar trim and ran the wire uphill
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #764 on: May 15, 2019, 10:07:33 PM »
About ready to reassemble.The amount of disassembly is epic!
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #765 on: May 15, 2019, 10:09:24 PM »
The initial test power up was not successful. Although everything is getting power and seems to function correctly, there is no sound coming from the speakers!!!!

After all the scraped knuckles and torn fingers, I threw in the towel and gave up for the evening.
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #766 on: May 16, 2019, 06:24:12 AM »
Don, is theOEM radio double DIN?  My biggest problem with the 2001 is the 1 1/2 DIN and having to replace the bezel and shoehorn a double DIN in there.

Also, a tip.  Move that microphone to the inside of the upper roof console just to the drivers right. Less noise from the window area to interfere with the commands and it will make it easier for the system to recognize the commands..


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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #767 on: May 16, 2019, 08:51:41 AM »
Don, is theOEM radio double DIN?  My biggest problem with the 2001 is the 1 1/2 DIN and having to replace the bezel and shoehorn a double DIN in there.

Also, a tip.  Move that microphone to the inside of the upper roof console just to the drivers right. Less noise from the window area to interfere with the commands and it will make it easier for the system to recognize the commands..


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Factory radio is 1 1/2 DIN

Pioneer head unit is double DIN

And I have a new dash bezel to fit it

Mic, hmmm. Wires already run. It's close to the factory location. Directions from Pioneer did not say to shroud it in...

Let me check with Crutchfield on this particular mic.

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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #768 on: May 16, 2019, 08:54:09 AM »
Not shroud. Just further away from the window. Over the years before Bluetooth when you had to have a separate, phone specific hands free kit, I had several installed and they always placed the microphone closer to the middle of the vehicle for that reason.


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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #769 on: May 16, 2019, 09:00:31 AM »


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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #770 on: May 16, 2019, 10:58:28 AM »
Ours from the factory (although Toyota) is in the center. Between the map lights.

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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #771 on: May 17, 2019, 09:49:53 AM »
I went up to the machine shop to discuss the rear brake situation.

My job is next in queue. We will machine for the factory 2500 studs like planned. But we also have to cut the center hole of the disc brake rotors to fit the mugo hubs. With all that done, I will be able to bolt something up to the axle and start to figure out where to go.

First and foremost I want to see if there is anyway to use the stock emer brake system. There may be a way of harvesting the parts from the stock backing plate and grafting onto the steel plate that is designed for dual calipers. Dunno, have to have the parts to see if anything lines up.

So that's it on that subject

Regarding the rear shocks, I spoke with a SME at the FOX off road factory. Given the factors of the heavier than stock Burb and the limitations of driving a longer vehicle on extreme trails (Ain't gonna happen!) he thought I needed a reservoir shock with 30/70 valving and 8.5" of travel.

So I purchased those shocks and get a note this morning that the things have shipped.

So, have the drive shaft and shocks sorted, brakes pending

And

Finally, after talking to the Crutchfield technicians, my problem with the audio lies in the fact that my Burb has a factory Amplifier which I will have to jump around since it is essentially not used. They sent me a schematic which will help me get that done today. So with any luck, I may be able to close out the audio mod today.

All that leaves very little on the punchout list.

Concurrently with this wiring, today I plan to attach the overhead lights and get those operating, leaving only some fog/flood lights to be added to the bumper.

All in all I am tracking but may be slightly delayed from a departure 10 days away. I think realistically, I'm looking at sometime early to mid June which still works out great for a summer jaunt.
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #772 on: May 17, 2019, 08:37:52 PM »
Man, this stereo/electronics/wiring project almost took on a life of its own. I am on top of the curve but after 10+ hours today on it, I'm ready to put this thing to bed.

So I figured out that the reason it wasn't pushing any sound to the speakers was because I was pushing through a dead stock amp. To get around that, I needed to pull the factory Amp, and its plugs and rewire them. I did so over the morning hours

Crutchfield supplied me with a schematic which I distilled down to the essentials
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #773 on: May 17, 2019, 08:39:53 PM »
The amp sits behind the glove box and was bolted in from the backside! Now how or why would the factory have done that. It turned out to be a bugger getting out, but like all things facing persistence, it yielded in the end
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #774 on: May 17, 2019, 08:43:15 PM »
I think I may have crossed the 50% threshold, meaning I have touched more than half the bolts, wires, fasteners and what not on this vehicle. I have literally been almost everywhere!

The process here was to find and connect the input and output right front positive, then the negative then on to the other 3 speakers until all were simply crimped together bypassing the amp
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #775 on: May 17, 2019, 08:45:27 PM »
A quick check of the radio, and I was blessed with a beautiful sound. Man WHAT A DIFFERENCE! It is clear, powerful, and full to an extent I have seldom seen. It sounds great!
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #776 on: May 17, 2019, 08:46:11 PM »
So I taped off the rewired harness and secured it out of the way and reinstalled the glove box stuff
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #777 on: May 17, 2019, 08:47:48 PM »
The rear sub woofer/amp RCA adapter cable showed up, so after installing that, I secured those wires, and tucked everything away. Lacking reinstallation of the sill plate, that part is also done.
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #778 on: May 17, 2019, 08:50:15 PM »
And because the overhead lights bone is connected to the interior trim panels bone, I wired those aux lights in

With this 80/20 stuff, you can tuck the wires into a cavity and push in their trim strips which were designed to do exactly that. The result is pretty neat and organized
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #779 on: May 17, 2019, 08:52:47 PM »
Yea, I know...I'm not thrilled about that light power wire hiding in plain view, but on this truck, I just don't want to drill any unnecessary holes. I'll cover that with a vinyl patch before I get motoring.

TO find room for a double DIN head, some minor surgery is required to remove a factory shelf.
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #780 on: May 17, 2019, 08:54:07 PM »
Then the brackets are secured to the sides of the Pioneer head unit

And the ECU is reinstalled
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #781 on: May 17, 2019, 08:55:28 PM »
I sorted and placed wires all over but ran into no unusual binding. The radio unit slid right in and locked in place just like a factory unit
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #782 on: May 17, 2019, 08:57:02 PM »
Big D,
what kind of sub did you use?
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« Reply #783 on: May 17, 2019, 08:57:15 PM »
Next came the new trim bezel in a color listed as "Limestone" which is a pretty good match. Notice there is no black accent painting. I may get that later on, but time is short and there are some bigger fish to fry.
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« Reply #784 on: May 17, 2019, 08:57:51 PM »
Big D,
what kind of sub did you use?
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #785 on: May 17, 2019, 08:59:51 PM »
Next up, the CB radio was secured in place. I heard someone talking on one of the channels, but this thing will need some tuning and adjusting to get it right
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #786 on: May 17, 2019, 09:01:13 PM »
There is a remote control included so following the theme of the build, I found a spot and velcroed it in place. It is easily removable and it works well
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #787 on: May 17, 2019, 09:02:11 PM »
...And I moved the microphone in toward the center and close to the factory mic
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #788 on: May 17, 2019, 09:04:49 PM »
Here is the overhead light switch going in.

Those lights, all four of them are wired to the high beams through an independent relay. What this switch does is allow me to turn that circuit off if I don't want all that light out there.

I may reorganize how the aux lighting works later, but for now this is how we will likely depart
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #789 on: May 17, 2019, 09:06:31 PM »
The unused pod beside that switch will soon mount this USB port for direct connection to the receiver/control head.
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #790 on: May 17, 2019, 09:07:40 PM »
The small rheostat on the side of the lower console is a remote sub-woofer bass level controller
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #791 on: May 17, 2019, 09:08:45 PM »
This was only a mockup to see if I liked my cell phone/GPS sitting on the dash

I did not!
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #792 on: May 17, 2019, 09:09:56 PM »
And to my surprise the Fox shocks showed up

They are a bunch shorter than the way-way too long BDS supplied units
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #793 on: May 17, 2019, 09:10:55 PM »
And this is what it is looking like at the moment:
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #794 on: May 17, 2019, 11:20:55 PM »
My cell sits right where that new switch is on yours. Doesn't block the view and I can see it fine.

Like the new head unit, thought off and on about doing that in mine. I also have XM and rarely play CDs.

In retro do you wish a 10.5 had found its way to you?
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #795 on: May 17, 2019, 11:50:35 PM »
Are you going to put some other color on that white pipe?


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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #796 on: May 18, 2019, 10:22:06 AM »
My cell sits right where that new switch is on yours. Doesn't block the view and I can see it fine.

Like the new head unit, thought off and on about doing that in mine. I also have XM and rarely play CDs.

In retro do you wish a 10.5 had found its way to you?
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It is a current stressor, but a future point of pride and joy (I think/hope)

On the larger canvas, this was one really massive project to get done in 5 months. I have likely put a year's worth of work in it since I purchased it last winter. I can bring it home and I want to think the true value in all this sacrifice will show up in the trip next year, and the year after and so forth as this thing writes indelibly onto the memories of my family..."Remember the day in MOAB when dad was driving that old suburban and he..."
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #797 on: May 18, 2019, 10:22:56 AM »
Are you going to put some other color on that white pipe?


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You can fly that flag at my place.  Remember the “War of Northern Aggression” !!


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You can fly that flag at my place.  Remember the “War of Northern Aggression” !!


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