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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #500 on: May 16, 2020, 01:46:44 PM »
I’m going to start the chant I hear in the back of my head.  It goes something like this:  Dur-a-burb.....Dur-a-burb..... Dur-a-burb.....Dur-a-burb...... Dur-a-burb.....Dur-a-burb........DURABURB!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #501 on: May 16, 2020, 04:54:52 PM »
I’m going to start the chant I hear in the back of my head.  It goes something like this:  Dur-a-burb.....Dur-a-burb..... Dur-a-burb.....Dur-a-burb...... Dur-a-burb.....Dur-a-burb........DURABURB!!!!!!!!

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This is where it needs to go.... but only after he gets home from this first trip. Even if he wrote a check, I don’t think they could get a duramax in it in time for June trip.

Duraburb for the win!

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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #502 on: May 16, 2020, 06:12:38 PM »
Its a fun truck as it is, but that duraburb went by me like it was idling.

I think I probably should take the leap to diesel it out with a nice ally

But after the trip

And now I need to start the process of talking myself out of doing it!
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #503 on: May 16, 2020, 08:44:16 PM »
Its a fun truck as it is, but that duraburb went by me like it was idling.

I think I probably should take the leap to diesel it out with a nice ally

But after the trip

And now I need to start the process of talking myself out of doing it!

i’ll take the 6.0 when it’s pulled..

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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #504 on: May 16, 2020, 09:02:33 PM »
Cummins swap it, 6.7 and ally
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #505 on: May 16, 2020, 11:53:04 PM »
Cummins swap it, 6.7 and ally
That would be sacrilege.
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #506 on: May 17, 2020, 07:06:44 PM »
Cummins swap it, 6.7 and ally
That would be sacrilege.
Don't worry, that won't be happenin'
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #507 on: May 17, 2020, 07:07:06 PM »
Its a fun truck as it is, but that duraburb went by me like it was idling.

I think I probably should take the leap to diesel it out with a nice ally

But after the trip

And now I need to start the process of talking myself out of doing it!

i’ll take the 6.0 when it’s pulled..
Okey doke
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #508 on: May 26, 2020, 11:27:25 PM »
The burb still has some strange problems, so I am running them down one by one

The right rear door: No speaker, no electric window control

Pulled the panel and found both the switch and the speaker partially unplugged. Wires reattached and everything works fine now

The stereo just wasn't sounding right. So I tuned it in several areas. The amp, the sub woofer, and the equalizer and I would say it now sounds great

The underhood lamp ground wire broke off, so I repaired that

The winch hot lead, attached to a 100 amp mega fuse was not getting voltage and the winch was not working. SO I reattached the lead to the local hot battery post and that unit now works again.

The overhead lights quit working. I have not figured that out yet.

I have brake fluid accumulating on the drivers floor mat. It's not the master cylinder abt seems to be coming from those new -4 brake hoses I incorporated into the parking brake system. I tightened the fittings which were all tight already, so the jury is still out on that one

The six rib belt powering everything that spins on the front of the motor turned itself into a 4-rib belt. I removed it, and ordered two new ones, due in Thursday.

I had two additional sets of lights to wire in to finish that out, so I got started on the top push-bar lamps which will be triggered through a relay from the high beam
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #509 on: May 26, 2020, 11:29:23 PM »
Then I finally installed lights powered by the factory fog light circuit and harness. I will use these for side illumination at night.

That installation is complete now and works fine

Who says you can't fit a square peg into a round hole?
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #510 on: May 26, 2020, 11:32:16 PM »
I am still having a battery drain issue, but other than that, it's down to solving the leaky brake line, installing a good accessory drive belt, amd sorting the overhead lamp issue. After those few punch out items the burb will be ready to travel. I'd make it 98% complete/ready to go at this point.
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #511 on: May 27, 2020, 02:53:23 AM »
Funny, you built a wood water tank for the trailer and it leaks someplace.

You built a wood base power system for the burb and issues are showing up.

Actually cept for the drain issue, seems simple.

My burbs batteries showed 100% on one charger and DOA on another. Been cycling and trickle charging em and seems they are doing OK now (little low on water too) Showing 12.4 normally and holding high 11's under a load check. Few more days to tell is I need new batteries
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #512 on: May 27, 2020, 03:59:59 PM »
Funny, you built a wood water tank for the trailer and it leaks someplace.

You built a wood base power system for the burb and issues are showing up.

Actually cept for the drain issue, seems simple.

My burbs batteries showed 100% on one charger and DOA on another. Been cycling and trickle charging em and seems they are doing OK now (little low on water too) Showing 12.4 normally and holding high 11's under a load check. Few more days to tell is I need new batteries
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Maybe some woodtrons got mixed in with the electrons, then some termites went in and disrupted things...Could happen...

Battery is up to 13.something and acting normally. Been on and off trickle charging it for daze now
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #513 on: May 27, 2020, 04:53:42 PM »
So, big D, what caused your belt to lose a couple ribs? Sounds like you may have a pulley out of alignment.
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #514 on: May 28, 2020, 08:58:56 AM »
So, big D, what caused your belt to lose a couple ribs? Sounds like you may have a pulley out of alignment.
I looked at that and everything looks normal. in alignment. I spun the motor up once, the first time just before I noticed it. I really don't know, but maybe all the wrenching and fitting around that belt could have cut it in some way...(reaching here), who knows. Nick did say that sometimes these superchargers will toss a belt and he suggested I carry a spare. I ordered two which will come in today. And I will likely not spin the motor up again, just no need to do so with a heavy burb.
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Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #515 on: May 28, 2020, 12:00:50 PM »
Why mount those lights high on the brush guard and not hang them from the top tube, less to snag trees on in my logic


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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #516 on: May 30, 2020, 05:22:11 PM »
in my logic

We don't use logic around there here parts.
So, Bobby...being the calculating trained warrior NCO that you are.  Take the appropriate action, Execute!
your standard grunt level CQB is just putting rounds and rounds on scary stuff till it stops scaring you!

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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #517 on: May 31, 2020, 08:36:38 PM »
I just continue to run down the little issues this truck is having.

It developed a problem with the fan circuit breakers popping that I just couldn't sort.

You would be sitting in traffic and the temp just start to creep up. Open the hood, and push in the breakers and the fans would kick in lowering the temp.

I suspected the unit was not grounded properly, and I was right. The fans normally ground to the alternator bracket, but that went away with the supercharger installation. I found everything grounded to the battery tray hold down. I made up a ground cable and attached that to the alternator bracket and while I was doing that, I was running the engine and fans and when they kicked on from low to high I thought I saw a spark near the relay stack.

Upon investigation, I actually found some wires were not making good contact INSIDE A STEEL CRIMP!!!!!

Yep, never saw that before either. So I heated and soldered that connection and remounted everything and so far fans are running strong like they should.

I found that inverter which was bad, and I found some mega fuses which don't seem to be burned but are not working!!!. I replaced them and simplified the wiring and now everything electrical is working.

Finally and it is the last thing, I traced down the brake line leak. Again, I have never seen this before but one of the new teflon/stainless steel hoses is bad. No leak or evidence of any wetness at either end at the fittings, but the middle of the line is wet!
All those years flying hooks which are two big rotor systems tied together by a net of hydraulic lines and I've almost never seen a line fail or leak in the middle somewhere, other than those which were grazed by some high speed projectile.

I'll replace that line and that should bring this truck to 100%. And it is running really well. Loads of torque and accelerates at part throttle effortlessly. We should be hooking it to the trailer for a test run in just days.
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #518 on: June 01, 2020, 05:55:35 PM »
Reason being Don is I can almost bet the Teflon line/liner was sourced from Chinaman

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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #519 on: June 01, 2020, 08:28:34 PM »
Ah!
Can't recall who's lines these were, perhaps summit racing. Have to get an aeroquip line...Thanks!
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #520 on: June 24, 2020, 08:51:43 PM »
So whats the final verdict of the burb, the problems and thoughts of the job nick did?
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #521 on: June 26, 2020, 07:51:45 PM »
So whats the final verdict of the burb, the problems and thoughts of the job nick did?
Nick and Preston did good, proud of them.
John the transmission guy did too, good people.
I finished the brake line and running down things and have nothing to fix, the burb is 100%
I've been driving it
Only real complaint(s) is the high cruise RPM resulting in poor mileage.
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #522 on: June 26, 2020, 11:37:24 PM »
So you ended up taking the dmax on your vaca instead of the burb?
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #523 on: June 29, 2020, 05:11:35 PM »
So you ended up taking the dmax on your vaca instead of the burb?
Wife's 4-runner
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #524 on: June 29, 2020, 06:34:55 PM »
How did the 4runner do pulling the camper?
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #525 on: June 29, 2020, 07:57:51 PM »
They didn’t take the camper.  That doubles the tow limit of that runner lol


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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #526 on: June 29, 2020, 10:04:33 PM »
How did the 4runner do pulling the camper?
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #527 on: July 02, 2020, 11:09:29 AM »
How did the 4runner do pulling the camper?
We did not take the camper, just we peeps. I do not think that that 4-runner could pull a sick boy off a pee pot!
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #528 on: July 02, 2020, 11:55:14 AM »
So, I'm tweaking the setup some more. Before I do something drastic I'm going to install larger tires to slightly lower the RPM. I just ordered 5 new Kanati Trail Hogs which I have been wanting to try out. I'm in to these supposedly cheap tires, which from my growing experience are just as good as tires costing much more. I obtained these Trail Hogs for $239 ea which is just killer.

I'll remove the 35" Dick Cepek tires and call it good. THis will lower the RPM about 125-150 depending on the actual outside diameter.

Looking further down the road, I am contemplating a big inch stroker bottom end with a torque cam. I am seeing 500 ft lbs to the ground and although it has no problem moving out quite smartly, it is not diesel like. A diesel conversion is going to get into the couple of ten thousand range, and like RedNeck points out, I would be further along to just buy a used duraburb, which I might well do and just add to my collection.

Anyway, tires first and a bit of tuning to see how this all pans out.
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #529 on: July 02, 2020, 01:35:47 PM »
Funny, I am thinking about staying with my 35 tires on my Dmax. I love the way it runs with the 4.56 gears and the 35s. Decent mileage and I am pulling hills all time and towing. I only see 2k rpm at 70mph.

I need to try cheap too, $300 each for the Coopers right now, need to find a sale.
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #530 on: July 02, 2020, 10:00:19 PM »
Hey. Maybe the guy you bought it from would take it back in trade for this one.


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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #531 on: July 02, 2020, 11:04:24 PM »
I sure love that website!!  However it makes me envious of the extra funds to do stuff like that

I’m stuck washin the ol dirty


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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #532 on: July 02, 2020, 11:31:11 PM »
Nice burb, but 15k for a 23 year old suburban? Its nice, but that is close to Duraburb pricing.
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #533 on: July 03, 2020, 10:02:37 AM »
Love the land cruiser


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