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« Reply #850 on: February 12, 2020, 12:53:36 AM »
Besides that, leaving connectors in the open, on the roof to bounce around??
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« Reply #851 on: February 12, 2020, 09:37:26 AM »
Might add some of this to your mess.  100ft - 1 inch PET Expandable Braided Sleeving - BlackRed - Alex Tech Braided Cable Sleeve https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074GM133X/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_713qEbHFHNRTH

Thinking the Hot and Cold braided lines might be better managed held together.  We used lots of it while wiring antenna for your flying machines.


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Good call!

I've seen that stuff on many preflights

I just ordered 25 feet of each size...And not too late to get it in there before covering...
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« Reply #852 on: February 12, 2020, 09:38:45 AM »
Besides that, leaving connectors in the open, on the roof to bounce around??
JR, I considered covering them, but you can't budge them. With the bulkhead housing and the wires taped down those connectors are solid and don't move at all
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« Reply #853 on: February 12, 2020, 10:53:00 AM »
Long as you're happy with the warthog  :grin:
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« Reply #854 on: February 14, 2020, 11:14:05 AM »
Assembling the outlet receptacle box for the right side
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« Reply #855 on: February 14, 2020, 11:14:46 AM »
And that's in!
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« Reply #856 on: February 14, 2020, 11:15:40 AM »
This "electrical panel" will get the lacquered black treatment
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« Reply #857 on: February 14, 2020, 11:16:50 AM »
I installed a 110VAC outlet in the pantry box for possible use outside...coffee maker?
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« Reply #858 on: February 14, 2020, 11:17:43 AM »
Getting power to the circuits
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« Reply #859 on: February 14, 2020, 11:19:07 AM »
Things are turning on...about half way or a bit more at this point.
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« Reply #860 on: February 14, 2020, 11:20:06 AM »
Map light operational. I have it switched, but it is also a tap on/tap off lamp
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« Reply #861 on: February 14, 2020, 11:21:04 AM »
Creating another electrical panel
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« Reply #862 on: February 14, 2020, 11:22:13 AM »
Started the polyurethane build up of the pantry shelf
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« Reply #863 on: February 14, 2020, 11:23:22 AM »
Then gave this side its final coat of paint following working the body filler and sanding for the last time
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« Reply #864 on: February 14, 2020, 02:46:50 PM »
Don are you not using plastic or metal electrical boxes around your 110v outlets?
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« Reply #865 on: February 15, 2020, 08:35:59 PM »
Don are you not using plastic or metal electrical boxes around your 110v outlets?
Nope, sure aren't

Space is so limited, essentially the box the outlets mount in are the receptacle boxes. Another box would just be the department of redundancy department. It all fits nice and snugly
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« Reply #866 on: February 15, 2020, 08:38:45 PM »
The next box turned out well. Kind of what I was just talking about, the box is the box...

The finishing technique I am using is to finish the object with body plastic, sanding to smooth. Then three coats of black epoxy. I follow that the next day with another coat of paint. I sand that when it's dry and spray with two coats of spar urethane.
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« Reply #867 on: February 15, 2020, 08:40:08 PM »
Final coat of epoxy on everything except for one big patch on the belly where it rests on the table. That's next, then the bed liner
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« Reply #868 on: February 15, 2020, 08:41:42 PM »
The rear map light and receptacle box is in, screwed down to its base
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« Reply #869 on: February 15, 2020, 08:42:40 PM »
What kind of armor are you putting on this Don? Metal rock sliders?  Metal rear bumper? 


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« Reply #870 on: February 15, 2020, 08:44:30 PM »
Then I completed the wiring in the main electrical condition monitor panel and screwed the face panel to the cabinet. I then covered the upward bound cable in that flex weave stuff that Dave recommended. It works very well.
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« Reply #871 on: February 15, 2020, 08:47:50 PM »
What kind of armor are you putting on this Don? Metal rock sliders?  Metal rear bumper? 


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Well, the steel frame to start with.
I already have the buildups around any plastic compartment door to protect against branches
I think I'll add something to the rear to cover the water tank area and maybe a nudge bar on the sides, don't know. I'm thinking of a roof rack thing that is really just steel bars to ward off branches.
Passively, I built all those angles into the front slope to lift and move branches, and recessed almost everything, or eoclosed them like with the taillights. Finally, I thought about some aluminum diamond plate for the front.
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« Reply #872 on: February 15, 2020, 08:49:43 PM »
And here's the start of the rear storage cabinet. I plan to finish it with the bondo and black laquer treatment with some interior lining. It's getting mocked up here
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« Reply #873 on: February 15, 2020, 08:51:07 PM »
While I was messing around back there, I wrapped some cables with the dave stuff
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« Reply #874 on: February 15, 2020, 08:53:07 PM »
Next I added this rear sloping shelf. I'm thinking things like shoes, cans, batteries, tackle box and the like. The slope should keep things where they belong.
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« Reply #875 on: February 15, 2020, 08:54:49 PM »
A couple shots of where it all is at the moment.

You will start to see insulation panels, some paneling and flooring in the not too distant future.
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« Reply #876 on: February 15, 2020, 11:21:58 PM »
I just did an inventory of everything, and I mean everything that I assembled into that camper, then added everything I have yet to construct

I used actual item weights or calculated weights that I found online, like the weight of steel rectangular tubing per foot, or the weight of EPDM per square foot.

Adding up everything in a very long spread sheet I calculate a dry weight of the thing, finished of 2438.5 lbs

Adding almost 550 lbs of water, food, clothing and things, I get a fully ladened mission weight of 2988 lbs.

Well under the 3500 I was estimating.
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« Reply #877 on: February 16, 2020, 12:07:14 AM »
Don are you not using plastic or metal electrical boxes around your 110v outlets?
Nope, sure aren't

Space is so limited, essentially the box the outlets mount in are the receptacle boxes. Another box would just be the department of redundancy department. It all fits nice and snugly

A metal “handy box” takes up almost no additional room and gives you protection against something accidentally hitting the backside of those plugs, shorting and starting a fire.
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« Reply #878 on: February 16, 2020, 12:52:43 AM »
I installed a 110VAC outlet in the pantry box for possible use outside...coffee maker?

What, no GFCI?

The next box turned out well. Kind of what I was just talking about, the box is the box...

The finishing technique I am using is to finish the object with body plastic, sanding to smooth. Then three coats of black epoxy. I follow that the next day with another coat of paint. I sand that when it's dry and spray with two coats of spar urethane.

That box looks molded vs built, nice!

Lower rub rails and good bumper would be great ideas. and you have the GVW to spare now.
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« Reply #879 on: February 16, 2020, 01:52:52 AM »
I kinda had some 1.5 tube rock sliders bars down the bottom side of this, similar to Shawn’s he put on a Jeep not to long ago, the ones he added to a square tube I think... You could use them in addition to the frame but as also a step spot to reach things on the roof when the roof is all the way up( I have no idea final height of this).     


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« Reply #880 on: February 16, 2020, 01:56:10 AM »
Here they are,   
Not exactly the square portion but you could outline the lower portion of the trailer and even go up and around the wheel well..    in the end this is made of wood and glue,,  a good wrap around a tree or a larger then Kens GF size rock.   The slider bars would look good, add some structural rigidity and function well.   


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« Reply #881 on: February 16, 2020, 08:53:50 PM »
Yea, I can see it

and I have plenty of reserve weight to play with
Now, not guaranteeing to have those on before its maiden voyage, if I get the chance to do that this year, but if the build continues to speed along, I may get the chance to weld those on.

I do have the 110VAC on a GFCI, 20 amp circuit.

After church, and before training I stopped in to Menards and picked up the flooring and some packs of cedar T&G for the walls. Getting to that point pdq

I'm staying with neutral purple and yellow colors with camouflage and neon green trim. Should look great!
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« Reply #882 on: February 16, 2020, 09:02:28 PM »
Those sliders are made from 2x3 3/16 wall tube (sound familiar?) and the round is 1 5/8” hr x 1/8”
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« Reply #883 on: February 16, 2020, 10:36:56 PM »
Those sliders are made from 2x3 3/16 wall tube (sound familiar?) and the round is 1 5/8” hr x 1/8”
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I'd have to bend up some longins!

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« Reply #884 on: February 16, 2020, 11:44:28 PM »
But think of the structural strength, the badassery in looks to have a exo cage around the bottom.


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« Reply #885 on: February 17, 2020, 08:57:18 AM »
I agree with Dave, if it were mine and it's not. I would do more of an exo cage style around the bottom. Which then has me wondering what is the total overall width of this camper? 102"? If its less then I would do as we used to do when I was a kid on our wood hauling trailers we pulled behind the tractors. What we would do to save the tires is ramp it out to the side in front of and behind the wheel wells. This would allow us to push and pull it around tree through the woods and tires didn't get hung up on the trees. In this case you could make two bars for each side. One in front of the wheels and one aft then wrap it around front or back for 12-18" or so...….
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« Reply #886 on: February 17, 2020, 12:13:24 PM »
I agree with Dave, if it were mine and it's not. I would do more of an exo cage style around the bottom. Which then has me wondering what is the total overall width of this camper? 102"? If its less then I would do as we used to do when I was a kid on our wood hauling trailers we pulled behind the tractors. What we would do to save the tires is ramp it out to the side in front of and behind the wheel wells. This would allow us to push and pull it around tree through the woods and tires didn't get hung up on the trees. In this case you could make two bars for each side. One in front of the wheels and one aft then wrap it around front or back for 12-18" or so...….
I think you peeps have me swayed like the willow in the wind. I think you're right, an exo skirt with some extra stuff would add to Dave's BAery quotient and scare hippies off to the next parking space.

It's not that wide at all. Outside to outside minus the bumps is 73.5" with bumpery make it 75" total. I could easily accommodate an additional 4" per side to get me to 83" total width and give me something to accidentally rub against a prius or two. ;-)
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« Reply #887 on: February 17, 2020, 12:15:07 PM »
Shawn, sketch out that idea of yers and snap/post a pic of it. Crayon on a shop towel is gud enough quality, just want to grasp the konsept.
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« Reply #888 on: February 17, 2020, 09:08:41 PM »


Sorry, for the crappy sketch. Spent a whole three minutes on it. But if your 2x3 tube frame sits under the outer edge and then you outboard the tires a bit. I’d start by building the fenders and angle out to them in the front and the back. Then I’d add round tubing as a step / rub rail along the side. Probably don’t need it to wrap around front as it’s narrower already than the suburban. You may want to put a full tube along rear though and I’d bend them in at each end and weld right to the 2x3 frame underneath. Nothing mad maxish but light and highly functional


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« Reply #889 on: February 17, 2020, 10:02:36 PM »
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Sorry, for the crappy sketch. Spent a whole three minutes on it. But if your 2x3 tube frame sits under the outer edge and then you outboard the tires a bit. I’d start by building the fenders and angle out to them in the front and the back. Then I’d add round tubing as a step / rub rail along the side. Probably don’t need it to wrap around front as it’s narrower already than the suburban. You may want to put a full tube along rear though and I’d bend them in at each end and weld right to the 2x3 frame underneath. Nothing mad maxish but light and highly functional


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« Reply #891 on: February 17, 2020, 11:01:42 PM »
After removing the cabinet. I built it up then spread bondo all over the thing, then sanded it with #60 then #120

I was sure to inhale most of the dust to keep it from getting on the floor!

After cleaning the thing off, it got a coat of primer
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Followed by four coats of black epoxy, then two coats of gloss spar urethane
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« Reply #893 on: February 17, 2020, 11:07:22 PM »
Not sure if anyone here has ever seen these before, but they are real live evasion maps. One of these two is the very one I was issued during Desert Storm and carried in my helmet bag. Now the cool thing about these hybrid maps is that they are made of the same stuff tyvek house wrap is made from. They are waterproof, and can be used as a makeshift tent, water bag, rain jacket and have the maps of the region of Iraq I was flying in at that time. Along the margins are pictures of hazardous and edible plants and dangerous wildlife along with celestial navigation information and a ton of information. They have been sitting in my closet forever, so I decided to finally use them for something
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« Reply #894 on: February 17, 2020, 11:08:55 PM »
...as a closer wall paper

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« Reply #895 on: February 17, 2020, 11:10:13 PM »
And right after gluing the map down, I finished the table top/door with two more coats of spar urethane
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« Reply #896 on: February 17, 2020, 11:11:24 PM »
In preparation for the installation of the insulation sheeting, I cleaned and vacuumed the inside.
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« Reply #897 on: February 17, 2020, 11:13:36 PM »
Then laid down half of the floor with some 3/4" R 3.3 foam board

The foam board fills the space out to the face of the 3/4" stringers and reinforcements I have placed all over
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« Reply #898 on: February 17, 2020, 11:16:52 PM »
I selected a good grade of vinyl flooring "boards" that clock/snap together. Meant to be a floating floor, I nixed that and applied some glue here and there to keep things in their rightful place whilst bouncing across the america.

Both HD and SLOWES were out of the 3/4" panels so I had to stop right here when I ran out of foam board to lay flooring onto. But at least I almost have it done!
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« Reply #899 on: February 18, 2020, 06:20:19 AM »
Great idea with the map Don. I’d shoot some ultra clear urethane over it too. 


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