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Re: 2010 F350 Extended Cab Cummins 24V Swap
« Reply #350 on: March 18, 2021, 09:18:29 PM »
Spacer for air intake horn showed up today and I was able to get it mounted.







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Re: 2010 F350 Extended Cab Cummins 24V Swap
« Reply #351 on: March 18, 2021, 10:31:52 PM »
Cuts down on noise

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Re: 2010 F350 Extended Cab Cummins 24V Swap
« Reply #352 on: March 19, 2021, 12:52:06 AM »
Interesting. I thought the Ford fan would've been counterclockwise, but the pic doesn't lie.
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Re: 2010 F350 Extended Cab Cummins 24V Swap
« Reply #353 on: March 19, 2021, 06:17:01 PM »
If you recall this fat 60 had a tough life, full of sludge and the tubes were packed with an oil dirt mud mix. After scrapping most out by hand I recalled my hot rod neighbor Chuck who is moving had dropped off this tool awhile back. It had a 3” grinding wheel attached on the arbor end. Quick trip to Ace hardware and I replaced it with the 3” wire wheel. Once you get it in a tube it works pretty well.







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Re: 2010 F350 Extended Cab Cummins 24V Swap
« Reply #354 on: March 19, 2021, 07:46:59 PM »
Your hood close on that rams horn?

Was close on my 1st gen
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Re: 2010 F350 Extended Cab Cummins 24V Swap
« Reply #355 on: March 19, 2021, 10:49:11 PM »
Your hood close on that rams horn?

Was close on my 1st gen

Currently yes, but the cab and dog house are 6’ above it at the moment
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Re: 2010 F350 Extended Cab Cummins 24V Swap
« Reply #356 on: March 19, 2021, 10:50:50 PM »
Don, here’s another guys build with compounds in the same chassis. I believe I’ll be ok.




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Re: 2010 F350 Extended Cab Cummins 24V Swap
« Reply #357 on: March 20, 2021, 11:44:16 PM »
Your hood close on that rams horn?

Was close on my 1st gen

Currently yes, but the cab and dog house are 6’ above it at the moment
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Re: 2010 F350 Extended Cab Cummins 24V Swap
« Reply #358 on: March 22, 2021, 04:15:36 PM »
Bad news, setting up those used gears on the fat 60

I had to add .015 to push ring gear towards the pinion. After contacting Tate he confirmed the oem gears were likely smoked. New set inbound from our very own Tate @ Randy’s Ring and Pinion. Money pit keeps getting deeper.





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Re: 2010 F350 Extended Cab Cummins 24V Swap
« Reply #359 on: March 22, 2021, 05:10:22 PM »
Coast/reverse looks good anyway.

Do you use setup gears, I never did but will make up a set/s.
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Re: 2010 F350 Extended Cab Cummins 24V Swap
« Reply #360 on: March 22, 2021, 06:41:32 PM »
Coast/reverse looks good anyway.

Do you use setup gears, I never did but will make up a set/s.

I use setup bearings on the carrier yes.
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Re: 2010 F350 Extended Cab Cummins 24V Swap
« Reply #361 on: March 22, 2021, 06:51:27 PM »
Oops, yep setup bearings :rolleyes:
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Re: 2010 F350 Extended Cab Cummins 24V Swap
« Reply #362 on: March 22, 2021, 07:16:08 PM »
Oops, yep setup bearings :rolleyes:

Tate sells them too but they’re not very cost effective if I recall. Mine are napa skf units, I’ve done enough setups to know that my skf bearings add .003 to backlash once I press on koyo or timken bearings. So I always set the back lash a tad tight with the skf units as it opens up with standard new bearings.
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Re: 2010 F350 Extended Cab Cummins 24V Swap
« Reply #363 on: March 22, 2021, 07:39:01 PM »
I was able to order the new custom rear springs from alcan today. My buddy ordered his for a 72 k20 with 1 ton axles I’m building. He’s picking both sets up for us in about 4 weeks across the mountains from us. I was waiting on cheap shipping.
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Re: 2010 F350 Extended Cab Cummins 24V Swap
« Reply #364 on: March 22, 2021, 08:37:59 PM »
Doesn't get much cheaper than that. Shipping has gone nuts hasn't it?

Why alcon's over deavers? I actually got rears for the sub from SD and tuff countrys for the front which I added an military wrap and took off the small spring.

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Re: 2010 F350 Extended Cab Cummins 24V Swap
« Reply #365 on: March 22, 2021, 08:59:13 PM »
Since Shawn is posting I take it he was not the source of the swat active shooter incident in CO today....


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Re: 2010 F350 Extended Cab Cummins 24V Swap
« Reply #366 on: March 22, 2021, 09:21:31 PM »
Doesn't get much cheaper than that. Shipping has gone nuts hasn't it?

Why alcon's over deavers? I actually got rears for the sub from SD and tuff countrys for the front which I added an military wrap and took off the small spring.

They’re in Colorado and not Cali......
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Re: 2010 F350 Extended Cab Cummins 24V Swap
« Reply #367 on: March 22, 2021, 09:21:50 PM »
You guys are getting way too good at this black magic gear stuff
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Re: 2010 F350 Extended Cab Cummins 24V Swap
« Reply #368 on: March 22, 2021, 09:23:05 PM »
Since Shawn is posting I take it he was not the source of the swat active shooter incident in CO today....


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« Reply #369 on: March 22, 2021, 09:24:19 PM »
You guys are getting way too good at this black magic gear stuff

It’s all Tate......

I had my assumptions but he really is very knowledgeable and I know I’ve said that before but when I question things he is definitely a huge resource.
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Re: 2010 F350 Extended Cab Cummins 24V Swap
« Reply #370 on: March 27, 2021, 04:40:42 PM »
Ring and pinion showed up from El Tate and I slapped it together this morning along with a new oem Dana Spicer 1350 Yoke courtesy of Summit Racing. For $53 I couldn’t see tossing on a speedi sleeve at a cost of $30

I then proceeded to weld up the GLO diff cover and will install it with some chassis saver paint and a lube locker gasket prior to hanging under the front end with new springs and shocks from Bilstein in addition to the leveling kit. Once it’s hanging in place I’ll add the outer components to finish it off.
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« Reply #371 on: March 27, 2021, 05:22:08 PM »
“Slapped”. Lol


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« Reply #372 on: March 27, 2021, 05:49:32 PM »
“Slapped”. Lol


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Re: 2010 F350 Extended Cab Cummins 24V Swap
« Reply #373 on: March 27, 2021, 10:50:51 PM »
“Slapped”. Lol


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Yeah, should be attached to a yo mamma joke I suppose.....
Pretty sure he was referring to you making it sound easy, but never know with you 2.

Setup bearings? Sacrificial? Or do you grind the center out for a slip fit to be able to reuse?
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« Reply #374 on: March 27, 2021, 11:25:14 PM »
“Slapped”. Lol


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Yeah, should be attached to a yo mamma joke I suppose.....
Pretty sure he was referring to you making it sound easy, but never know with you 2.

Setup bearings? Sacrificial? Or do you grind the center out for a slip fit to be able to reuse?

You’re probably right about Charles’ meaning.

It went together fairly quick (an hour maybe?) since I had spent a couple hours on the oem gears already that I tossed in scrap tub today.

Pinion was easy, pulled steel spacer (crush sleeve eliminator as oem gears the step on pinion is lower and Yukon gears move step up or towards the pinion nut thread so it’s essentially a built in cse, make sense?) I was using on oem set and it was gtg with shims I was using with the cse.

Carrier I had in and out several times to get backlash where I wanted it with my setup bearings. This was due to fact oem ring gear was so worn that the new Yukon ring gear was quite a bit different. I have a set of setup bearings for Dana 60’s they’re chinaman napa skf new bearings that I took a 60 grit sanding drum in my die grinder to the ID so they slip fit. Worth noting, I know from the multiple 60’s I’ve setup that I need the backlash to be .003 tighter than what I want with the Timken or Koyo bearings that I then press on.
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« Reply #375 on: March 28, 2021, 09:03:21 AM »
“Slapped”. Lol


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Pretty sure he was referring to you making it sound easy, but never know with you 2.

Setup bearings? Sacrificial? Or do you grind the center out for a slip fit to be able to reuse?
He knew.....

Interesting about the Yukon gears.


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Re: 2010 F350 Extended Cab Cummins 24V Swap
« Reply #376 on: March 28, 2021, 10:40:34 AM »








Studded up the housing and installed the lube locker and GLO cover then “slapped” some chassis saver on it and touched up housing. Let er dry and get it back where it belongs.


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« Reply #377 on: March 28, 2021, 12:46:47 PM »
Yo mamma.

Looks good. Bullet proof I’d say.


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Re: 2010 F350 Extended Cab Cummins 24V Swap
« Reply #378 on: March 29, 2021, 12:52:53 PM »
That looks beefy!


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Re: 2010 F350 Extended Cab Cummins 24V Swap
« Reply #379 on: March 29, 2021, 01:03:52 PM »
Should I say it, it looks like a DON creation!
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Re: 2010 F350 Extended Cab Cummins 24V Swap
« Reply #380 on: April 03, 2021, 09:06:43 PM »



Power steering pump came in, made a stud from a grade 8.8 12mm x 1.75 bolt for the top mount hole. This is actually a pump only no vacuum from a 4bt school bus setup.

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« Reply #381 on: April 03, 2021, 10:33:36 PM »
That's pretty trick.

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« Reply #382 on: April 03, 2021, 10:54:23 PM »
That's pretty trick.

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« Reply #383 on: April 06, 2021, 10:09:21 AM »




Freshened up the aftermarket 3 piece exhaust with some new high heat paint.


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« Reply #384 on: April 06, 2021, 10:18:55 PM »







Exhaust manifold is on, test fitted small turbo & ordered some specialty hardware to mount it permanently. Front fat 60 axle is hung and leveling kit is 75% installed, bilstein shock was missing upper hardware so waiting on that.


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« Reply #385 on: April 06, 2021, 10:26:17 PM »
Thats the small turbo? Looks great in there.
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Re: 2010 F350 Extended Cab Cummins 24V Swap
« Reply #386 on: April 06, 2021, 10:39:12 PM »
Thats the small turbo? Looks great in there.

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Re: 2010 F350 Extended Cab Cummins 24V Swap
« Reply #387 on: April 06, 2021, 11:12:32 PM »
That'll move it some. What around 800-900 tq?

Have no idea what I have for mine, but as I said I am running the 6.2 now. Will optimize that soon. Unless I stud I am stuck at about 6-8 boost.
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« Reply #388 on: April 07, 2021, 09:05:14 AM »
That'll move it some. What around 800-900 tq?

Have no idea what I have for mine, but as I said I am running the 6.2 now. Will optimize that soon. Unless I stud I am stuck at about 6-8 boost.

Honestly, I have no idea. I recon it will be enough though. My larger concern is getting 5R110 built to handle the motor. If I toss the checkbook at it and it doesn’t survive I may do zf6 swap in future is my thinking.

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Re: 2010 F350 Extended Cab Cummins 24V Swap
« Reply #389 on: April 07, 2021, 02:27:31 PM »
ZF6 i see more of those out there than the 4500. Would you do a divorced tcase or can you mount one up?
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« Reply #390 on: April 07, 2021, 05:26:19 PM »
ZF6 i see more of those out there than the 4500. Would you do a divorced tcase or can you mount one up?

Ford zf6 so np273 ford setup, prefer manual t-case and do away with switch
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« Reply #391 on: April 12, 2021, 01:44:34 PM »
Ordered the 34 spline input for the np205 today.......
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« Reply #392 on: April 12, 2021, 02:35:25 PM »
I just missed a 4500 with a 205 and a cummins housing on FB. Was 2K but still think it was a deal.

ZF6 has better shifting right? About the same ratios?
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« Reply #393 on: April 12, 2021, 05:09:12 PM »
ZF5 or ZF6 stronger and better shifting, I drove a 99 Superduty with zf5 for many trips with 12k trailer hauling steel 20 years ago. It’s tough & smooth
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« Reply #394 on: April 12, 2021, 05:35:45 PM »
Got me thinking,,,,,
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Re: 2010 F350 Extended Cab Cummins 24V Swap
« Reply #395 on: April 21, 2021, 05:20:42 PM »
Dana 80 center is back together .0105 BL so just a touch out of spec as it’s .004-.010 per Yukon. Carrier preload is pretty high, had spreader on it and she was a bear to put in and out for adjustments. Pinion preload was right at 38 inch pounds and spec is 25-40. All new Timken bearings.

Interestingly enough I went to install yoke and it had a bit of wear on the seal area underneath. So I had another yoke that came in on an axle with a bent pinion. That yoke had little to no wear in that pinion seal area. So I put both in a lathe and checked runout on the yokes. The bent pinion unit was .001-.002 run out, the worn unit from non bent pinion was close to .010

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« Reply #396 on: April 21, 2021, 05:28:01 PM »
Darn clean pattern there Shawn. Nice work.
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« Reply #397 on: April 21, 2021, 05:29:30 PM »
Darn clean pattern there Shawn. Nice work.

Thank you, arms are shot that ring and carrier is a bit heavy.....  :tongue:

Probably how Ken feels after putting H’s shoes on for her!
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« Reply #398 on: April 21, 2021, 05:40:58 PM »
That would be a scary view down there,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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