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Excursion Cummins Build for the Mrs.
« on: January 30, 2020, 07:00:03 PM »
New thread for the Excursion build.... still thinking of name but she will speak to us I am sure.

Warning: I have read and benefited much from some of the build threads on here that are highly detailed and documented. This unfortunately will not be one of them as it will be a pretty darn fast build as the deadline is early March for a camping trip to Moab. As mentioned in previous thread - this will either go good or poorly for marital harmony, not a whole lot of room in-between. The results will be tested on a 28 hour round trip in 5 weeks.

Goal of project is to build a family friendly towing rig to take across country to different events we attend throughout the year.

Purchased two Excursion for the project. The first is a 2000 with a 94/95 160hp P-Pump 12V already installed. This one has all the right parts but has not been treated kindly. Ran strong, probably has some pump work done as well as injectors and a HX40 turbo. Tough to know exactly as the guy I bought her from was not the one that originally built her.

 

Second one was a "clean" gasser with a 198K on the clock. Turned out to be much less "clean" than I had thought once we dug in. Mechanically sound and has clean history but had some used car lot tricks underneath to cover up a bunch of rust on the body. Had to drive a few hours to pick it up and looked it over at dusk with a flashlight, lesson learned.   :knucklehead: Bright side is it still had more in usable parts on her for the build than what I paid. Just a bummer as it made the project much tougher than swapping power train into this one.



Pulled them both in, evaluated and determined a game plan.



- Red one's body is actually in better shape, going to require rust repair but manageable with using combination of doors and parts between the two. Will have to find cab corners, have them coming from out of state.

-Full mechanical shakedown on Red.
 Going through all suspension, brakes drive line and replacing what is needed. Which is most of it - wheel bearings, rotors/pads/calipers, lines, shocks, ect ect.  :facepalm:
 Pulling motor and transmission for inspection and re -gasketing. Advancing the timing while out along with installing 60lb valve spring.
 P Pump is getting bigger delivery valves, higher governor springs, AFC Live in cab fuel control and a higher performance lift pump to hopefully push the needed fuel pressure. Couple other tweaks on pump.   







Whoever gave the previous owner green paint needs to be arrested. Just my opinion...... Will be getting painted gunmetal gray.

Doing a full interior swap over from the black one so red's interior had to go!







Have done all the suspension/brakes/hubs/wheel bearings with the exception of shocks, those haven't arrived yet. Took red to body shop to get some rust repaired along with prep for wrap. Going to try a wrap on it and see what we think. This is the color the Mrs. would like it wrapped. Also sold the current wheels and bought some matte black simple 17" pro comps to go back on.




Will be tearing apart motor and trans tomorrow. Hope to find all good news! Would be refreshing, have found some surprises to be sure!

Oh, and yes, I got upgraded tow mirrors. 
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Re: Excursion Cummins Build for the Mrs.
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2020, 08:06:25 PM »
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Re: Excursion Cummins Build for the Mrs.
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2020, 08:18:19 PM »
Your Mrs has good taste IMO.
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Re: Excursion Cummins Build for the Mrs.
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2020, 09:27:44 PM »
So far do good. Think the first bumper is overkill?
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Re: Excursion Cummins Build for the Mrs.
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2020, 09:17:42 AM »
whatever you do, don’t paint it cummins beige. that color only has a 50/50 shot at running after built/installed.  :evil: :grin:

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Re: Excursion Cummins Build for the Mrs.
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2020, 10:38:32 AM »
Good Lord

(No really, he is a good Lord)

But Holy crap! You gonna have all this done in less than two months!  :facepalm:

Psycho...

But I like it (a lot) :wink:

Good luck, and on something this ambitious, I hope your prayer life is strong in the force!!!
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Re: Excursion Cummins Build for the Mrs.
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2020, 10:40:18 AM »
whatever you do, don’t paint it cummins beige. that color only has a 50/50 shot at running after built/installed.  :evil: :grin:
I concur!!!

Ford blue, chevy orange, devil black, Cat yeller' or pontiac turquoise...anything but that injection pump cloggin beige
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Re: Excursion Cummins Build for the Mrs.
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2020, 10:42:04 AM »
Anyone else think that bumper on the red truck is all three kinds of ugly?

Just me???

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Re: Excursion Cummins Build for the Mrs.
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2020, 10:37:37 PM »
I thought that was the first bumper you built for your tundra Don?


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« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2020, 10:45:58 PM »
I thought that was the first bumper you built for your tundra Don?


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About same weight as sq d unit.....  :evil:
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Re: Excursion Cummins Build for the Mrs.
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2020, 09:58:43 AM »
I thought that was the first bumper you built for your tundra Don?


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« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2020, 09:59:10 AM »
I thought that was the first bumper you built for your tundra Don?


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About same weight as sq d unit.....  :evil:
Lighter probably
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Re: Excursion Cummins Build for the Mrs.
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2020, 04:11:32 PM »
No need to wish gentlemen, that beauty of a bumper can be yours for the asking......  :grin:
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Re: Excursion Cummins Build for the Mrs.
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2020, 10:40:34 AM »
No need to wish gentlemen, that beauty of a bumper can be yours for the asking......  :grin:
Hollywood?
Set of the latest mad max movie??
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Re: Excursion Cummins Build for the Mrs.
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2020, 10:59:45 AM »
I’ll pictch in shipping if you mail it to Ken


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« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2020, 12:53:51 PM »
I’ll chip in for gas if you drive down and install it on his truck while he’s sleeping. :)


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« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2020, 08:07:39 PM »
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« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2020, 08:35:28 PM »
In if you slap a H for president sticker on it b4 you ship.....  :evil:
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Re: Excursion Cummins Build for the Mrs.
« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2020, 09:08:08 PM »
How did I get dragged into this!
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« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2020, 09:21:01 PM »
How did I get dragged into this!

We couldn’t think of anyone else who could mold that horrible chunk of steel into something beautiful.....

Or who had the equipment to hang that ton of steel off the end of a truck!

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« Reply #20 on: February 06, 2020, 12:44:47 AM »
I'll chip in for gas AND get a sticker for it, whoever runs,,,,,
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« Reply #21 on: February 06, 2020, 06:44:52 AM »
In if you slap a H for VICE president sticker on it b4 you ship.....  :evil:
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« Reply #22 on: February 06, 2020, 12:12:56 PM »
I’ll chip in for gas if you drive down and install it on his truck while he’s sleeping. :)


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Re: Excursion Cummins Build for the Mrs.
« Reply #23 on: February 06, 2020, 07:55:43 PM »
thanks to all y’all  :knucklehead: ‘s the man is going to have to start ANOTHER build thread for this truck.

at the rate he’s having to think of new names for the headline, he’s losing steam and it’ll be sq d all over again! hahaha.

for his sake and the wife’s, leave the man be and let’s enjoy a speedy, single thread build of an awesome overlander  :beercheers:

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« Reply #24 on: February 06, 2020, 09:11:12 PM »
Yes mom


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« Reply #25 on: February 06, 2020, 09:20:44 PM »
Uh, no DOTing???????????????? :undecided:
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Re: Excursion Cummins Build for the Mrs.
« Reply #26 on: February 14, 2020, 03:53:26 PM »
Baha, looks like the consensus is Ken is the man for the bumper..... now I just need someone to help me lift into the truck bed.....

It is a-going. At this point I have taken the original budget and doused it in gasoline and lit it. Becoming more painful. I am not a body guy and the guy who is gets to take all my money on this one. I. Hate. Rust. I officially own 2.5 Excursions now to make one good one. Cutting out and replacing bad spots, will take recommendations on what you all use to "neutralize" and coat the lighter stuff. Brother-in-law works for a pipeline company and has some stuff they used to coat underground pipe with that I may liberally use underneath. I have use POR15 in the past but just haven't been thrilled with it.

Engine is getting buttoned back together. Mods on it are:



PPump:
Power Driven Diesel AFC Live (in cab fueling setup)
Higher flowing delivery valves
3k governor springs (debating on dropping 4K in but not sure - opinions?)
Extended rack travel cap





Engine:
60# intake and exhaust spring
Timing bump from 12.5* to 18* (supposed to be happy medium for power and mileage)
Injectors - need to see what is in it. I have
Turbo:
Has Holset HE351 on it, was blowing oil past the seals so dropping in new cartridge with billet wheel
PDD Hot Rod Modified Cummins Lift Pump - mechanical but should be able to push needed PSI even if FASS goes down.


Suspension/Wheels/Tires

Has a 4 link coil over setup in the front
1 ton rear end with bags
Went with Rancho XS9000XL Adjustable Shocks - maybe take a leaf out of rear for ride since we have bags and can adjust shocks? Not sure yet.
34" Nitto Terra Grapplers G2s - needed to fit in garage so had to be conservative here
Pro Comp Series 69 Alloy Wheels
Replaced pretty much everything that moves in a circular motion.  :facepalm:


Interior:

Bringing everything over from the black one
Installing sound deadening
Installing a Ford Dash Kit for cleanly mounting all the necessary switches for all the go go gadgets I will want


Exterior:

Shifting from wrap to thinking I want to professionally line x it for the long haul. Any thoughts on this?

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Re: Excursion Cummins Build for the Mrs.
« Reply #27 on: February 14, 2020, 05:01:41 PM »
Wow. Bet this thing is done before the burb is finished.

I’m not a fan of bed liner on the body. Way too permanent and if you change directions later it’s a one way deal. Paint it and clear PPF is my vote or a color wrap and you can change it in 5 years.

But it’s your chicken. Pluck it how you see fit.


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« Reply #28 on: February 14, 2020, 05:52:12 PM »
I like the linex, with that stated not sure I would do it all over just maybe lower panels
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« Reply #29 on: February 14, 2020, 07:22:35 PM »
Kinda agree with Tex and Stlaser. I like the idea of doing the lower section for rock and possibly rust protection, but wouldn't do anything unless they stick a warranty on it.
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« Reply #30 on: February 14, 2020, 08:38:16 PM »
Yep, lower section is the way to go and my plans.

You rebuild the Ppump yourself?
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Re: Excursion Cummins Build for the Mrs.
« Reply #31 on: February 15, 2020, 10:31:32 AM »
my dad has 4k GSK in his. go ahead and do it now so you won’t have to later. he can regularly run it up to 2500-2700 with zero issue or even the slightest hesitation or defueling. and the thing revs faster  than a SBC. you can always have it and not use it, but if it’s not there.. it’s not even an option  :grin: