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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #550 on: April 24, 2017, 06:56:50 AM »
Looks good JR.  What about painting the nuts on the beadlocks?


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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #551 on: April 24, 2017, 07:03:13 AM »
Looking good JR - why dispose of the "run flats", weight?
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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #552 on: April 24, 2017, 08:19:16 AM »
Looking good JR - why dispose of the "run flats", weight?
They are pretty heavy...
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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #553 on: April 24, 2017, 10:16:12 AM »
I always ran mag runflats, not much weight at all.
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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #554 on: April 24, 2017, 03:32:53 PM »
The runflats are not bead locks is the main reason. Plus the beadlocks do the obvious and let me inflate the tire without use of a flame!

I need to get some balance beads now. Think I need about 1.5lbs per tire and non bio degradable, right?
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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #555 on: April 25, 2017, 12:04:38 PM »
NON biodegradable is my suggestion. I would imagine with condensation and agitation the biodegradable version would do it's job overtime inside the tire, no bueno.
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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #556 on: April 25, 2017, 01:03:57 PM »
NON biodegradable is my suggestion. I would imagine with condensation and agitation the biodegradable version would do it's job overtime inside the tire, no bueno.

Yep, thats what I hear.
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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #557 on: April 27, 2017, 11:27:52 AM »
Several of the guys in my 4x4 club use BBs, if you're looking for a cheap way forward, JR.
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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #558 on: April 27, 2017, 11:57:25 AM »
I have thought about them, but I hear they loose the coating and rust easy.

Looking at airsoft BBs now. Real balance BBs are sold like gold!
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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #559 on: April 27, 2017, 12:07:05 PM »
I used steel shot from shotgun loads.  Ran them in my 03's tires for a few years.  Still looked like new when I replaced tires.  I forget what shot size I used.  I still have the remainder of the box of shells someplace I am sure I could find though.  I don't really do any waterfowl hunting so I haven't had a use for them.
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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #560 on: April 27, 2017, 12:13:02 PM »
on that same token you could use lead shot... might deform though and bunch up I guess. I'm surprised the steel shot didn't rust up, depends on relative humidity and heating/cooling cycles I suppose. air soft bb's might require a whole lot to achieve the right weight though.
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« Reply #561 on: April 27, 2017, 12:19:51 PM »
That truck was driven daily.  I figure that the constant tumbling probably kept them rust free and polished. 

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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #562 on: April 28, 2017, 02:35:47 AM »
Got the cam installed today. You have all seen/done that so won't go crazy with pics.

The new impact made short work of the gear. Even had a little fire when I tried to heat the gear and all the rags caught.

Cam bearing is not the best with a little copper showing but still smooth.
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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #563 on: April 28, 2017, 08:04:43 AM »
The runflats are not bead locks is the main reason. Plus the beadlocks do the obvious and let me inflate the tire without use of a flame!

You lost me on this JR, my runflats were beadlocks.
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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #564 on: April 28, 2017, 08:06:53 AM »
I used steel shot from shotgun loads.  Ran them in my 03's tires for a few years.  Still looked like new when I replaced tires.  I forget what shot size I used.  I still have the remainder of the box of shells someplace I am sure I could find though.  I don't really do any waterfowl hunting so I haven't had a use for them.

You cut open good ammunition? The horror!  :popcorn:
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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #565 on: April 28, 2017, 10:21:58 AM »
I used steel shot from shotgun loads.  Ran them in my 03's tires for a few years.  Still looked like new when I replaced tires.  I forget what shot size I used.  I still have the remainder of the box of shells someplace I am sure I could find though.  I don't really do any waterfowl hunting so I haven't had a use for them.

You cut open good ammunition? The horror!  :popcorn:
He dug the steel and lead shot out of a perp he had just shot...Not wasted, recycled!
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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #566 on: April 28, 2017, 11:15:16 AM »
Mine have run flats that are not bead locks. Otherwise I may have rethunk it.
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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #567 on: May 01, 2017, 01:27:21 AM »
Got the fancy timing double roller from summit, set up 0-0-0. Already a low end motor.

Debating on roller tip rockers. Just $60 on ebay or swap from the elky.

Also took the kids to an RC Funfly. They built some foam gliders (Raptors) and I got them full trainers with all the gear.

Watched this foamboard Lancaster being built and fly, was cool.
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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #568 on: May 04, 2017, 12:29:29 AM »
Got some new top end parts. Some of the gunk up there was really bad and this was easier than all the cleaning.

Figure with a new cam, it can't hurt plus I needed a crank socket and was under a bill for it all.
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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #569 on: June 09, 2017, 12:48:04 AM »
Wow, a month since the last post here. Trying to squeeze some time in but between the last weeks of school and working with mom I have had little motivation.

Got the top end on and building a steering box brace. I'm not cheap but $130 for those braces is crazy.

Got another box from LMC working on the throttle body now. Going to mill the top some but I busted all the screws off the shaft. Tapped and heated em but they just spun the heads off. Hoping milling the shaft may loosen whats left.

I hate doing plug wires on the TBI's, they just squeeze to much in there. On a good note though I found a ground that was pinched under the valve cover.
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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #570 on: July 30, 2017, 06:43:53 PM »
Been playing with the kids, going fishing and just trying to stay cool. Feel like I live in the desert the last couple months, a cool day was in the 90's!

Built this for the treehouse as it needs to get going too. Guess what for?

These are for dinner tonight.
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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #571 on: July 31, 2017, 01:10:01 PM »
Good lookin trout there JR.
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« Reply #572 on: August 18, 2017, 04:20:41 PM »
Milled the upper lip off the throttle body. Still have to break the screw off the throttle shaft, milling should do it.
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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #573 on: May 27, 2018, 04:45:39 PM »
Well, with the room done this is back on the table. Still a few thing to clean up and other home projects, but nothing like a 2nd story!

Near the end of the above picture the adapted fell and mucked up the TBI some, plus I never got the screw to loosen up. Ended up getting another TBI unit.

I am transferring the mill to a new drawered cabinet that fits better and allows access to the tooling vs the cabinet I have now. It is also wider allowing better protection for the mill.
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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #574 on: May 27, 2018, 10:27:27 PM »
Jr you just purchased that box right?


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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #575 on: May 28, 2018, 12:23:02 AM »
Last week at HD. Was just 350 and they knocked 25 off for a ding in the back. HVAC guy did the top for 30.

Was 24 inch deep which is hard to find so when I found this I jumped on it.
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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #576 on: May 28, 2018, 02:04:34 AM »
Looks killer!  Imagine having those lines up all nice on the back wall of the garage with one solid top!


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« Reply #577 on: June 06, 2018, 02:11:10 AM »
Finished up.
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« Reply #578 on: June 06, 2018, 06:31:21 AM »
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« Reply #579 on: October 29, 2018, 01:44:36 AM »
Ok, so here we go to get this running again!
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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #580 on: November 05, 2018, 01:57:29 PM »
Another update, end goal is the same, just a different format, another sub.

I like what I have but getting it registered as a diesel in this state will be a lot of work. I have bee watching CL for months now in case a diesel sub came along that someone didn't want 5K for, was straight and close to me. So I found a couple the last week and this one sorta jumped out, then he dropped the price.

Plus by starting with a diesel reg, no smog, EVER. Plus it has hydro brakes and is supposed to be a rust free cal truck. Mine had a few spots I was not happy with but could be overcome. Heck guys drop gassers back in em but not may plan.

Going to a diff sub will cost me nothing but time. In fact I should make $$ on the deal in the long run, but thats for another post,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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« Reply #581 on: November 05, 2018, 03:46:18 PM »
Its a sickness I tell you!!!!

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« Reply #582 on: November 05, 2018, 04:11:32 PM »
Its a sickness I tell you!!!!

Yes it is, thank GOD!!!!
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« Reply #583 on: November 05, 2018, 04:21:47 PM »
I'm infected as well...
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« Reply #584 on: November 05, 2018, 04:33:34 PM »
Yes Don, but I hope his turns out better and faster to finish line.

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« Reply #585 on: November 05, 2018, 04:41:12 PM »
Just realized the diesel sub has a turbo, so a little more power is there until it comes out.

I took the side window of the 91 to fix a little rust bubble. Fairly easy with suction cups on these ol things. Found a little more rust than I was hoping for along the seam. Nut is will get treated from the inside so should be GTG.

Going to cut open an old hub for the abs ring. They run around $50 each so a little cutting could net some return.
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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #586 on: November 05, 2018, 07:49:02 PM »
Did the 6.2 come with a turbo? Or is it a Banks?
I worked on an 85 with a Banks for the life of the vehicle ... well til the owner passed, and it was over 350k last I saw.. never been into the engine.
It was starting to lose compression which made it slow to start in the colder mornings.
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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #587 on: November 05, 2018, 09:00:36 PM »
My uncle put a Banks on his 6.2. Made it a whole different truck.


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« Reply #588 on: November 05, 2018, 09:29:23 PM »
Did the 6.2 come with a turbo? Or is it a Banks?
I worked on an 85 with a Banks for the life of the vehicle ... well til the owner passed, and it was over 350k last I saw.. never been into the engine.
It was starting to lose compression which made it slow to start in the colder mornings.
Much more dependable than the 6.5s

So Ken...Just what would you call a colder morning? We have had a color of snow once in Bullhead since we have been going down but it didn't last once the sun was up.

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« Reply #589 on: November 05, 2018, 11:17:25 PM »
Bob, I would say anything around 50% cooler than *110.  :)
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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #590 on: November 06, 2018, 05:01:20 AM »
Will update you guys later today. Looks like it has a 6.5 TD in there. Not buying it for the motor, but am. Long as it runs OK, but then do we ever leave anything alone?
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« Reply #591 on: November 06, 2018, 03:17:24 PM »
Did the 6.2 come with a turbo? Or is it a Banks?
I worked on an 85 with a Banks for the life of the vehicle ... well til the owner passed, and it was over 350k last I saw.. never been into the engine.
It was starting to lose compression which made it slow to start in the colder mornings.
Much more dependable than the 6.5s

Well Ken that is do to the fact it rides nice and runs smooth, but when you only make 15HP how can anything wear out or break????

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« Reply #592 on: November 06, 2018, 03:37:22 PM »
Hmmm. So it makes 5 more horses than a 12v?   :shocked:
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« Reply #593 on: November 06, 2018, 07:40:48 PM »
Yep and it does not ride nice and runs very rough but it will be around longer than the Isuzu clone!

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« Reply #594 on: November 07, 2018, 08:42:40 AM »
Crap, can't argue that one (unless you're block cracks, or lose another pin) Lol
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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and flip, again!
« Reply #595 on: November 07, 2018, 04:25:43 PM »
The Bolt Ken, the bolt killed mine, the pin was fine!  Yea then they did have the block cracking issue on the Brazilian 53 blocks! 

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« Reply #596 on: November 10, 2018, 05:27:59 PM »
I gave it up last night and brought it home. Today I started to clean it up and found out a little more.

99% sure after blowing it off I have a 92-93 6.5TD. Ran the pump numbers and came up with that. It is a mechanical pump, no PMD (problem)

Also looks to be a 200hp version, which is near the top of the heap. Has a few wiring issues, not a surprise really.

The stock lift pump is up above the motor, after the stock filter/heater which could account for hard starting.


 
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« Reply #597 on: November 12, 2018, 10:58:08 AM »
Good research JR!
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