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Re: Sam's 2006 LBZ front bumper
« Reply #150 on: July 19, 2016, 10:31:01 AM »
Why not spray the inside of the rockers with the stuff Don uses? Prevents rust. Or get the encapsulating stuff from eastwood I got the burb, come with a wand to get it the hard spots.
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Re: Sam's 2006 LBZ front bumper
« Reply #151 on: July 19, 2016, 10:45:29 AM »
Why not spray the inside of the rockers with the stuff Don uses? Prevents rust. Or get the encapsulating stuff from eastwood I got the burb, come with a wand to get it the hard spots.
Yea, concur

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Gotta say, works pretty good on guns as well. Like your fav old shotgun. On that rare occasion when you pull the rear stock off. Coat all the steel with that goo-funkus and as the naw yarkers say, "Fa-get-ah-bout-it"
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Re: Sam's 2006 LBZ front bumper
« Reply #152 on: July 19, 2016, 12:46:45 PM »
For inside I'll use something else.
Need to look back at what was used to see if I can source it.

When I do wash the truck, which is not really all that often it's just beat with stone chips.
I need to address that on the outside with Raptor I'm thinking, and inside will definitely be something else. I know I can get the POR15, did see it somewhere on my travels.
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Re: Sam's 2006 LBZ front bumper
« Reply #153 on: July 20, 2016, 11:10:36 AM »
So small update.
In my haste to get the liner on, I neglected to do the cutouts for the additional backup lights.
Oh well, probably better in the timeline anyhow.

So I templated the lights in heavy cardstock, transferred it to the bumper.
Took a shot in the dark and used my 1/2" transfer punch to locate the corners, and drilled to 1/2" on the marks.



I then knocked the holes out with the jig saw. 1/4" plate is hard on blades.

If anyone else was wondering how thick two coats are as I was, it quite thick.
I'd put it around 1/16 or better.



Test fit the lights in the holes and transferred mount bolt locations.



And installed.

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Re: Sam's 2006 LBZ front bumper
« Reply #154 on: July 20, 2016, 11:16:04 AM »
The liner is still quite soft, and just noticed all of my monkeying with it has scraped a few spots off. Something to do with sliding it on steel sawhorses. Don, they don't catch fire FWIW, but are a hard surface on a finish. So your wood welding table may have been a better plan. Certainly the cardboard would have been more easy on it.

I'm sure I'll have a few more touch ups before install. Hope not, but they're just getting a rattle can undercoating at this point.
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Re: Sam's 2006 LBZ front bumper
« Reply #155 on: July 20, 2016, 11:59:05 AM »
Looks sharp Sam!
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Re: Sam's 2006 LBZ front bumper
« Reply #156 on: July 20, 2016, 12:32:56 PM »
Now I need patience to wait another day to start installs.
I'm going to piece together a harness for the added back ups, and tie it into the trailer harness when I redo the plug. I think that will be the simplest for the install.

I've got a bit of wiring mod to do on the front. I'll be removing the HID ballasts now in preparation for light bar. It's still on the slow boat from China, literally, I ordered in late May. I know, I know...but I wasn't sure on straight or curved. So for about sixty bucks I have both coming.

I'll modify the fog lamp circuit to power a harness and relay that was included, to power the light bar.
It would just be too much 180 watts, to add to the OEM harness.
I also have a high current plug to install on the winch power leads. Even with the breakers in line I'm still nervous about the cables shorting.

At the back, I have a ton of various sizes of wire loom to repair and add to for rock protection.

All this and HH6 is coming back from cabin when I can get her and her bestie. Our son comes home for a couple weeks tomorrow if the dang plane comes, and more company on the weekend.

So I'm taking advantage of a couple days at home to get stuff done.
Unfortunately the stock front will have to make an appearance for today, as I need the truck to transport to and from the cabin. Lots of laundry I suspect, a garbage run, dogs, etc.
Good news is, I won't install it all that well, as it will be off again tomorrow.
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Re: Sam's 2006 LBZ front bumper
« Reply #157 on: July 20, 2016, 02:47:57 PM »
So I've roughed in the backup lights.

I started by cutting off the bullet connectors, stripping back more jacket and then twisting the strands together.



Then soldered the connection.



I applied some dielectric grease to the bare section and added individual heat shrink.
Then two additional layers placed over the joint.



Then covered the works in split loom tubing to add some armour to things.
The smaller section taped in first at the joint, then the larger taped on overlapping a couple inches.



Then routed the wiring up and towards the trailer plug hole, where they sit until the install.



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Re: Sam's 2006 LBZ front bumper
« Reply #158 on: July 20, 2016, 05:48:57 PM »
The liner is still quite soft, and just noticed all of my monkeying with it has scraped a few spots off. Something to do with sliding it on steel sawhorses. Don, they don't catch fire FWIW, but are a hard surface on a finish. So your wood welding table may have been a better plan. Certainly the cardboard would have been more easy on it.

I'm sure I'll have a few more touch ups before install. Hope not, but they're just getting a rattle can undercoating at this point.

Cover top of saw horses with 2x4's and or carpet both work just fine.
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Re: Sam's 2006 LBZ front bumper
« Reply #159 on: July 20, 2016, 06:07:00 PM »
Should have, too late now. Just not dragging them around anymore.
If I was thinking I could have put cardboard or something under them after a few hours. Likely would have worked too. Oh well, can't win em all.
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Re: Sam's 2006 LBZ front bumper
« Reply #160 on: July 20, 2016, 07:40:15 PM »
If your luck is like mine, it would've stuck to the cardboard. Permanently .
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Re: Sam's 2006 LBZ front bumper
« Reply #161 on: July 20, 2016, 08:28:37 PM »
Sam. Good work. And I love heat shrink. It fascinates me.


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Re: Sam's 2006 LBZ front bumper
« Reply #162 on: July 20, 2016, 09:43:38 PM »
If your luck is like mine, it would've stuck to the cardboard. Permanently .
Ken, I believe we have the same luck. Lol.
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Re: Sam's 2006 LBZ front bumper
« Reply #163 on: July 22, 2016, 03:37:10 PM »
So today being another day, off came the rear bumper out came the hose to rinse off the mud.

I found an issue on the passenger tail light, and had to address it.



Pulled the harness down and out to work on it. One broken, another on its way out.



Soldered heat shrink and extra wire loom, back in the hole and done.

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Re: Sam's 2006 LBZ front bumper
« Reply #164 on: July 22, 2016, 03:42:42 PM »
Then it was on to the trailer plug. I found his guy broken when I built the bumper, and knowing it wasn't going on soon, ordered up the parts to replace the broken up connector when i installed.



Mouser electronics for the win again. I missed a couple part numbers, but was able to reuse the wire seals from the old plug.



Was a simple release the crimp in the seal and slide it off.



Did that seven times, and voila the new plug is in its place. Armoured up the harness and cleaned up everything that needed fixing.

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« Reply #165 on: July 22, 2016, 03:46:02 PM »
I then neglected to take any pictures, phone was dead, but added the wiring in for the reverse lights out of the trailer harness, and reused the liscence plate wiring for the bolt lights.

Bolted it on and was done!
I wasn't sure I liked the black last night, but today, I like it.

Here's the new rear.



And the refinished front.

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« Reply #166 on: July 22, 2016, 03:49:35 PM »
So next up is the discussion and decision process on how to maintain useable life in the panels.
I don't have any real rust issues per se, but have a lot of stone damage to put at bay.

One thought a buddy had was to do the flares black, and run the body line also black.
Not sure that I want that much black, but like the idea of the flares.

So now I'm thinking body line down colour matched, flares black, and under the doors black.

Going to have to do some work with photoshop to see it.

But man, am I happy to have head out of the garage.
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Re: Sam's 2006 LBZ front bumper
« Reply #167 on: July 22, 2016, 04:42:47 PM »
Darn good looking bumpers there mr Sam!
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« Reply #168 on: July 22, 2016, 04:55:07 PM »
Thanks Ken!
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« Reply #169 on: July 22, 2016, 04:56:12 PM »
Looks good. Yes address the chip issues before they become repair issues.
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Re: Sam's 2006 LBZ front bumper
« Reply #170 on: July 22, 2016, 04:57:31 PM »
That rear end looks great!!!


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« Reply #171 on: July 22, 2016, 04:58:18 PM »
Turned out real nice!
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« Reply #172 on: July 24, 2016, 09:21:38 PM »
Looking really sharp Sam!


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« Reply #173 on: July 24, 2016, 09:49:31 PM »
Ok now we just need you to make some for the Group.  I'll take one


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« Reply #174 on: July 24, 2016, 10:18:09 PM »
Ok now we just need you to make some for the Group.  I'll take one


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You don't know how many times I've already heard that...
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« Reply #175 on: July 25, 2016, 12:45:38 AM »
Ok now we just need you to make some for the Group.  I'll take one


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Dave, there is a member of this forum that had a business and probably still makes bumpers for our trucks on a professional level.  I wont dime him out,  ill let him offer that info up.
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Re: Sam's 2006 LBZ front bumper
« Reply #176 on: July 25, 2016, 10:04:57 AM »
I think he also did the weld it yourself kits.
I remember looking at them back when he started posting info about them.
They were pretty sweet too as I recall.
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« Reply #177 on: July 25, 2016, 10:13:53 AM »
I still need a trans build before I go for fancy bumpers.   


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Re: Sam's 2006 LBZ front bumper
« Reply #178 on: July 25, 2016, 11:05:24 AM »
I want a bumper for my dually that doesnt look like a mad max bumper.  Doesnt seem to exist.
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« Reply #179 on: July 25, 2016, 01:19:04 PM »
I've intended to document a bumper build for you guys here but haven't had time to do so. I thought I would start with the 3D modeling and throw in some design factors and other things a lot of people may not generally consider.  Been to busy finishing up projects on the house to build any bumpers lately even though I think I have the steel for 4 fronts and a rear sitting on the bench right now though.  I've shipped out fully welded bumpers, the afore mentioned weld kits and for those people I deem trustworthy and have access to a fab shop I have emailed them the .dxf files to take directly to a cnc plasma or laser table to have cut out.

This is not my full time gig.  I just do this as a side job/ hobby.  I've always enjoyed fab work and it helps me to better afford my expensive hobbies(trucks and guns).  You can check out my website/ some examples of work on my website. www.bearclawbumpers.com 

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« Reply #180 on: July 25, 2016, 02:57:19 PM »
I want a bumper for my dually that doesnt look like a mad max bumper.  Doesnt seem to exist.
And this is how I ended up where I'm at.
I think I succeeded, at least I like how they turned out.

I'm also certain that I'm frame bending in a frontal impact of any significance.
Which is the thought process Bear eluded to, it did cross my mind, but that was about where it stopped. I did find some of Bears info somewhere in my travels on the interwebz, and look forward to when you have time to do a write up.
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« Reply #181 on: August 09, 2016, 10:06:29 AM »
So was pulling the boat out the other night, and it's finally starting to get dark up here.
Got to see the backup lights at work.
Wow



I now wonder if 2 x 24 watts is a little much. It lights stuff up about 150 feet away quite well. The red outhouse is about that from the truck.

I'm also glad they are on the reverse circuit only also.
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« Reply #182 on: August 09, 2016, 11:20:35 AM »
Nice!! You can't have too much light!
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« Reply #183 on: August 09, 2016, 11:33:53 AM »
Besides a good rear bumper, those will be nice for tailgaters too.

Nope, not to much.
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« Reply #184 on: November 10, 2016, 04:15:02 PM »
So, light bar round two. Ordered a 24" as it was cheap, but waaaayy too small.
So found a 50" that looks to fit real good.



Will do the install in the next day or two.
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« Reply #185 on: November 10, 2016, 04:35:22 PM »
I will bet the price of those will really come down. Even wally has em now.
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« Reply #186 on: December 14, 2016, 10:19:35 PM »
Got the light bar finally installed.

Started by drilling the mount holes with front end together.
Then stripped off the grill and drivers signal assembly.



I did the all on mod years ago, so being the bumper didn't have fog lights, I used that circuit to drive the power relay for the light bar. Cut up the HID harness to maintain the plug on the truck, soldered in the relay base and brought power in from an under hood fuse block I installed. It was a four spot fused block rated for 100 amps...I don't and won't go there. Tied it off of the boosting bolt by the power steering pump. Ran a 10 AWG to the relay, and on to the light bar. Grabbed a ground off of a body bolt and was done.



Forgot to take any pics of it inside where it likely would make a better picture.
But snagged this blinding one in the road. Man is it bright.



Now time will tell if I should have spent more money for a name brand...
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« Reply #187 on: December 14, 2016, 10:34:08 PM »
Very nice. I have so called 80w bulbs for low beam and can't see a thing. Driving lights help but there has to be better!
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« Reply #188 on: December 14, 2016, 11:07:27 PM »
I went to 35 watt HID's in all my lights back in 2007.
They were and are still pretty bright.
I didn't see the need for 55's with the all on mod done.
But I'll tell ya, I've sure missed my fog lights.

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« Reply #189 on: December 17, 2016, 09:48:05 PM »
Post a photo of down the road view. 


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« Reply #190 on: December 17, 2016, 09:59:04 PM »
I'll try and get one that does it justice.
The auto white balance and darkness don't play well together.
The phone pics sucked or would have been included.
May have to pull out the real camera, but if that's what it takes I will.

The light output is nothing short of fantastic.
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« Reply #191 on: December 17, 2016, 10:30:17 PM »
My wife's travers is in desperate need of some extra lighting. I have given thought to a light bar in the lower grill but that might be a little to bright


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« Reply #192 on: December 18, 2016, 08:43:36 AM »
Dave see if the 9011/9012 mod will work on her traverse. They replace the 9005/9006 by trimming the guide tab on the bulb so they go in the stock housing and the light output is significantly higher.


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« Reply #193 on: December 18, 2016, 10:29:16 AM »
Looking good Samm... FWIW I tried the Raptor liner on the nose of my equipment trailer to help with stone chips. It's better than paint, but it's still all chipped up. The gravel here ruins paint quickly..asI am sure you know.

"Fluid Film" is what we use to coat steel against corrosion. Inside rocker panels, fenders, under floor boards you name it. The stuff flat works. I have bare steel that has sat outside for over a year that hasn't rusted. I get mine by the gallon at John Deere but it's available many places.

The areas of Patch that have no paint on them due to the gravel I just spray with fluid film once every few months and they are still bare steel, no rust.


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« Reply #194 on: December 18, 2016, 04:44:38 PM »
Sounds like good stuff for inside frame rails and such.

Guess TSC should have it.
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« Reply #195 on: December 19, 2016, 07:03:21 PM »
Dave see if the 9011/9012 mod will work on her traverse. They replace the 9005/9006 by trimming the guide tab on the bulb so they go in the stock housing and the light output is significantly higher.


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I switched them out with a set of H9 s.  The factory bulb is a 9012 I think.  The housing has the little shield in it so figured I would try it. Works well until I can get her some proper Hid and projector retrofit.   Still like the idea of a small light bar in the bottom of the grill for the long lonely drives into work


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Re: Sam's 2006 LBZ front bumper
« Reply #196 on: December 21, 2016, 03:49:43 PM »
Tell me a little more about the 9005 to 9011 bulb conversion? I have 80 watt lows now but need more (darn ol eyes) Are these an HID and just better bulbs?

On that note with all the cool stuff we have why not a forum on just lighting? Between auto, building and utility light, this is wide open.
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Sam's 2006 LBZ front bumper
« Reply #197 on: December 22, 2016, 11:14:15 PM »
Longshot lighting sold me a killer kit for my headlights.  I love them,

That being said lots of guys really like this set up
http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/76-speciality-forums/81-electrical/447624-legal-headlight-upgrade-here-better-bulbs.html#/topics/447624?page=1&_k=d8y78y
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Re: Sam's 2006 LBZ front bumper
« Reply #198 on: April 19, 2017, 11:02:37 AM »
So I e got a question for rpar86. Ryan, what holds the fender flares on, is it just the push pins, or is there more to it?
I'm in the city for likely the last time before break up, and have the delusion that I'm going to find time to Raptor the bottom of the body.
My plan is to pull the flares to get everything cleaned up good, do some de-molding etc.
If things work out might pull the box as well and do some frame cleanup.

Any advice on what I'll need to accomplish this?
Thanks in advance, hope you see this today as well...
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Re: Sam's 2006 LBZ front bumper
« Reply #199 on: April 19, 2017, 11:46:16 AM »
So I e got a question for rpar86. Ryan, what holds the fender flares on, is it just the push pins, or is there more to it?
I'm in the city for likely the last time before break up, and have the delusion that I'm going to find time to Raptor the bottom of the body.
My plan is to pull the flares to get everything cleaned up good, do some de-molding etc.
If things work out might pull the box as well and do some frame cleanup.

Any advice on what I'll need to accomplish this?
Thanks in advance, hope you see this today as well...

Push pins around the inside edge and double sided tape on the outer edge around the flair iirc.