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The Democratic Party national platform
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So, that we know what the Democrats stand for, I copied their platform from their official web site. I decided to dissect this piece by piece with commentary. So in the following posts, I'll take a look at what they say and compare that to what I know and have learned, believe to be true, or have witnessed
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RAISE INCOMES AND RESTORE ECONOMIC SECURITY FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS
Raising Workers’ Wages
Protecting Workers’ Fundamental Rights
Supporting Working Families
Helping More Workers Share in Near-Record Corporate Profits
Expanding Access to Affordable Housing and Homeownership
Protecting and Expanding Social Security
Ensuring a Secure and Dignified Retirement
Revitalizing Our Nation’s Postal Service
CREATE GOOD-PAYING JOBS
Building 21st Century Infrastructure
Fostering a Manufacturing Renaissance
Creating Good-Paying Clean Energy Jobs
Pursuing Our Innovation Agenda: Science, Research, Education, and Technology
Supporting America’s Small Businesses
Creating Jobs for America’s Young People
FIGHT FOR ECONOMIC FAIRNESS AND AGAINST INEQUALITY
Reining in Wall Street and Fixing our Financial System
Promoting Competition by Stopping Corporate Concentration
Making the Wealthy Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes
Promoting Trade That is Fair and Benefits American Workers
BRING AMERICANS TOGETHER AND REMOVE BARRIERS TO OPPORTUNITIES
Ending Systemic Racism
Closing the Racial Wealth Gap
Reforming our Criminal Justice System
Fixing our Broken Immigration System
Guaranteeing Civil Rights
Guaranteeing Women’s Rights
Guaranteeing Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Rights
Guaranteeing Rights for People with Disabilities
Respecting Faith and Service
Investing in Rural America
Ending Poverty and Investing in Communities Left Behind
Building Strong Cities and Metro Areas
Promoting Arts and Culture
Honoring Indigenous Tribal Nations
Fighting for the People of Puerto Rico
Honoring the People of the Territories
PROTECT VOTING RIGHTS, FIX OUR CAMPAIGN FINANCE SYSTEM, AND RESTORE OUR DEMOCRACY
Protecting Voting Rights
Fixing Our Broken Campaign Finance System
Appointing Judges
Securing Statehood for Washington, DC
Strengthening Management of Federal Government
COMBAT CLIMATE CHANGE, BUILD A CLEAN ENERGY ECONOMY, AND SECURE ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE
Building a Clean Energy Economy
Securing Environmental and Climate Justice
Protecting Our Public Lands and Waters
PROVIDE QUALITY AND AFFORDABLE EDUCATION
Making Debt-Free College a Reality
Providing Relief from Crushing Student Debt
Supporting Historically Black Colleges and Universities and Minority-Serving Institutions
Cracking Down on Predatory For-Profit Schools
Guaranteeing Universal Preschool and Good Schools for Every Child
ENSURE THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF ALL AMERICANS
Securing Universal Health Care
Supporting Community Health Centers
Reducing Prescription Drug Costs
Enabling Cutting-Edge Medical Research
Combating Drug and Alcohol Addiction
Treating Mental Health
Supporting Those Living with Autism and their Families
Securing Reproductive Health, Rights, and Justice
Ensuring Long-Term Care, Services, and Supports
Protecting and Promoting Public Health
Ending Violence Against Women
Preventing Gun Violence
PRINCIPLED LEADERSHIP
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS AND KEEP FAITH WITH OUR VETERANS
Defense Spending
Veterans and Service Members
Military Families
A Strong Military
CONFRONT GLOBAL THREATS
Terrorism
Syria
Afghanistan
Iran
North Korea
Russia
Cybersecurity and Online Privacy
Non-Proliferation of Nuclear, Chemical, and Biological Weapons
Global Climate Leadership
PROTECT OUR VALUES
Women and Girls
Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender People
Trafficking and Modern Slavery
Young People
Religious Minorities
Refugees
Civil Society
Anti-Corruption
Torture
Closing Guantánamo Bay
Development Assistance
Global Health
HIV and AIDS
International Labor
A LEADER IN THE WORLD
Asia-Pacific
Middle East
Europe
Americas
Africa
Global Economy and Institutions
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OK, so I'll tackle the first section below.
RAISE INCOMES AND RESTORE ECONOMIC SECURITY FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS
Raising Workers? Wages
During the eight years that the democrats ruled the nation, and I chose that word specifically, wages for most workers were frozen and most lost ground against inflation and ever increasing taxes. In stark contrast, since President Trump took office American workers have seen a tax cut that amounts ot an average of nearly a couple thousand dollars per household. Additionally business have grown at such a rate that the pool of available workers has dried up somewhat forcing workers wages to an all time high. So exactly what do democrats want to do to "Fix" that?
Protecting Workers? Fundamental Rights
This is code for making unions more powerful. Unions are socialist and communist building blocks that grate against capitalism and free business. In a level playing field where a robust economy drives the train, like it is now, workers are sought after and rewarded by companies seeking the best. Only in a unionized system is it nearly impossible to get rid of average or underperforming employees, but that's what communists like...
Supporting Working Families
More code for government supported unions bullying companies with regulations and unfair, artificially generated restrictions.
Helping More Workers Share in Near-Record Corporate Profits
Redistribution of wealth plain and simple. Why does anyone have a right to anything they did not earn. Just because a business was successful, does it for some reason owe its profits to its workers? The answer is simply, NO. However companies with extra money in the till just may be motivated to pay non union regulated workers who outperform more than their peers in an effort to continue to attract highest quality employees
Expanding Access to Affordable Housing and Homeownership
Remember the giant worldwide stock market crash and slide to oblivion that started in 2007 and continued through 2008? Well, that was due to the collapse of the sub-prime real estate market. Those loans were given to poorly qualified buyers in an effort to get a minimum wage worker into a $400K home. For obvious reasons many of those buyers defaulted on their loans causing the owners of the portfolios of those bundled mortgages to eat the loss as well. Ask me how I know??? Another dumb socialist failure from the recent past that Pelosi and her gang wish to revisit.
Protecting and Expanding Social Security
The truth is Democrats use the monies in the social security till for other programs leaving very little of what we invested remaining. They also believe that someone who illegally enters the country and claims asylum should suddenly have access to social security, MY and YOUR MONEY. So their policy and practice is actually destroying actual Americans security.
Ensuring a Secure and Dignified Retirement
How exactly? By first doling out my social security money to immigrants? By mandating that I purchase health care insurance that quadrupled my premiums in as many years? What kind of special stupid are you actually? Do Democrats actually live in opposite day, like all the time?
Revitalizing Our Nation?s Postal Service
The postal system has its place. However the postal system will never be successful because the government makes it pay money to several other social programs (Did you all know that?) Therefore it can never compete on a level playing field with FedEx and UPS or others who all share the same costs but have no such additional taxation. Let the natural playing field of competition run its course and if the post office can make hard decisions and survive, then more power to it. However if it fails because of the ball and chain it is forced to carry, then let that be another chapter is the book of lessons on dumb government ideas.
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I'll take on this one next
BRING AMERICANS TOGETHER AND REMOVE BARRIERS TO OPPORTUNITIES
Ending Systemic Racism
Two words: Bull Crap! The definition of racism the democrats want us to believe makes me the worse kind of person because i am an older white christian man. I think that just makes me: 1. Old, 2. White, 3. Christian, 4. Male, nothing more. Oh and I believe as do most conservatives that there are only males and females barring a natural genetic deviation. I firmly believe that many liberals through their own ignorance think that there is some overwhelming facial divide that some good old boys keep going. Grow up already and smell the coffee. We are about as good a functioning culture as mankind has ever seen in the last 5,000 years!
Closing the Racial Wealth Gap
How exactly? Because if you say, that we will normalize testing standards and eliminate artificial racial balancing and allow for a man or a woman to be the best they can be, then, I'm with you all the way. But if you tell me that my son cannot enter college with a 3.0 GPA whereas someone of another race can enter with a 2.1 GPA, then I think that is unfair. Further if that person of whatever race wishes to never better him/herself and do their best to succeed, then I am fine with them choosing to live under bridges and in patches of poison ivy and honey suckle
Reforming our Criminal Justice System
Dunno on this one, haven't studied it
Fixing our Broken Immigration System
Yep lets do that. Frankly I didn't know it was broken. I do, however think the leftists are not happy with it because it causes the influx to slow down so we can get a chance to screen those who wish to come here. I do not believe that the socialists care about immigrants. I would love to see thousands of immigrants take up residence directly outside the homes of the democrats who so desperately want them. I think that would be a good start to reforming the system. Let them see what a group of these people can be like.
Guaranteeing Civil Rights
We already do that, I's suggest democrats take a look at a document called the Bill of Rights, and chase that with another lesser known publication called the Constitution.
Guaranteeing Women?s Rights
See above (Already done)
But I think Democrats want some women to have more rights. Witness the Kavanaugh hearings. Democrats made an argument for the presumption of guilt, IF, a woman makes the accusation, and that accusal is of a sexual nature.
Guaranteeing Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Rights
No, Absolutely not. Unless of course you also guarantee the rights of older white christian men. You see, I may be out of tune with the leading edge uber cool lefties, but in my silly world everyone has the same rights...blind eye of justice and all that...
Gays have no more rights than "Straight" people. Lesbians and just gays, so same-same. Transgenders arguably may be mentally ill, and have no more rights than anyone else, This whole proposition that any group has any more rights than anyone else is anti american and wrong in so many ways!
Guaranteeing Rights for People with Disabilities
Same rights as everyone else... (This is getting old...)
Respecting Faith and Service
Yea, I can get with this. So why do we not do that Democrat leftists? Why do you oppose a Christians right to practice their beliefs? Why do you elevate islam above Christianity? There were no muslims founding this nation. There were no hindus, buddhists or muslims fighting for our national identity in the revolutionary war. So I may be off here, but I think this is a Christian nation first and foremost. I think if you are of any other persuasion, then YOU need to change to fit in with us, not the other way around. I further thing that if you push your views on me, you are being a racist against me, not vise versa.
Investing in Rural America
Liar, Liar, pants on fire! Lying democrats! So taking away coal is investing in rural america? allowing tariffs against our farmers is investing in rural america? allowing our tobacco farmers to grow the product that all of europe and the islamic world is fighting over to buy...That is investing in rural america? The only rural america a practicing democrat ever saw is the piece of land they own in the country where they build a second home.
Ending Poverty and Investing in Communities Left Behind
Like you did in detroit? How exactly did that work out for ya? If communities don't care enough to self police and improve, then maybe slums is the thing they naturally turn into? Or would you prefer to send them all to harvard for a basket weaving degree?
Look given the choice between squandering our good money on a bunch of useless programs and welfare that causes good people not to have the opportunities that could make them more productive, that or build a fifteen foot tall anchor fence around the failing community...Well, I vote for door number two!
Building Strong Cities and Metro Areas
I'm with you on this one. Isn't that what Mr Trump is doing?
Promoting Arts and Culture
No, disagree. At least no monies from the general fund spent in this area. Money is too valuable and we need infrastructure first
Honoring Indigenous Tribal Nations
Nope.
Although I respect American indians and I think things like the trail of tears is a national disgrace, Indian people are strong and like any other culture will do fine without government interference. Heck some reservations who build resorts or engage in other enterprises are better off that surrounding US communities. I think this is just the democrats trying to appease everyone and I do not believe indian nation people like being treated this way by socialists.
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Fighting for the People of Puerto Rico
No, No, NO!
This is a state issue. The people of Puerto Rico have their own government which like many democratic administrations has run the place into the ground. They created the mess they are in, they need to fix it themselves. Democrats want puerto ricans because they are predominantly democratic voting. Beyond that, they fit pretty well into the socialist model of welfare state and being dependent on the government till...
Honoring the People of the Territories
Why honor them more than anyone else? And why we're making all this noise about honoring the named people, why didn't the party of the democrats not single out police officers? Or fire fighters? or the military? In my view, those groups far surpass the peoples mentioned in this platform, don't you think?
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COMBAT CLIMATE CHANGE, BUILD A CLEAN ENERGY ECONOMY, AND SECURE ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE
Building a Clean Energy Economy
Code for putting government subsidies into wind and solar energy programs. Not so sure if that isn't a good idea, but the way it is done is so underhanded that the democratic politicians like Harry Reid just get rich from Chinese payoffs and the darned energy developments don't work anyway. Remember Solyndra, the failed Obama pet project solar panel company? The whole debacle with the standoff between the militia and the bureau of land management in nevada was over government condemnation of farm land that was to be sold to the Chinese to develop a solar farm. That was so crooked that although people died, prominent politicians should have gone to jail
Securing Environmental and Climate Justice
Giving more authority to the EPA and the BLM to bully private citizens. Ridiculous things like placing fines on private landowners of $50,000 a day and burying normal citizens in a mountain of legal crap that a single person has no hope of surviving. I do not trust the politically motivated portion of the EPA and like agencies.
Protecting Our Public Lands and Waters
Theoretically this would be a good idea if the laws and programs were not weaponized by left leaning bureaucrats. We have seen them criminalize ranchers for simply building a pond. In one case the pond was named a navigable waterway so that the rancher could be fined and convicted by laws that should have never applied. We have seen the BLM come in and wreck a pond dam leaving the farmer with insufficient water to keep his cows alive. This is bullying and frankly the more power we give the government, the more likely things like this happen. Democrats are all about bigger government, more control and the subsequent loss of liberties.
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CREATE GOOD-PAYING JOBS
Building 21st Century Infrastructure
Concur, we should do this. I would recommend just going with Mr Trumps plan. Rename it the democratic party infastructure plan or something like that, but use his plan and do it his way.
Fostering a Manufacturing Renaissance
Well, again Mr. Trump has brought back over a trillion dollars of manufacturing and business money that had previously departed under the heavy taxation of comrade Obama and his merry men. (Can I say men, nevermind, we'll call them shims for she/him) So we are amidst a manufacturing renaissance which was necessary because the democrats made trade deals which caused American manufacturing to move to Mexico, China, India and other places not served with a zip code.
Creating Good-Paying Clean Energy Jobs
Like clean coal? Like those? Well, you all but killed them and considering that America is like 70% coal, you democrats tried to kill low cost energy altogether. Remember Hillary's platform? If it's coal related, it dies. Thanks to those times I still pay a premium on my electric bill of nearly $70 a month for some particle collector that doesn't work but serves to better concentrate the poisons and carcinogens in the rural areas where the food producers life.
Pursuing Our Innovation Agenda: Science, Research, Education, and Technology
Oh yea, good one. I remember Obama's innovation agenda. Check your history, that which the liberals have not erased or tried to change. Under Obama we lost the space shuttle...The ONLY space shuttle on earth. That forced us to step up with pride into a soviet spacecraft to hitch a ride to our space station. Oh, not done yet. Obama redirected NASA to study better ways to integrate the muslim culture into America. One can easily see where that program furthered the space program (Hashtag idiots, waste of money, really stupid things the Obama administration did)
Supporting America?s Small Businesses
Really? Even if it isn't owned by a gay/transgender couple? Or does the liberal democrats think that suing owners of bakery's who refuse to bake wedding cakes for gay marriages advances the cause for small business? Reducing regulations and dumping the ultra stupid universal healthcare system benefits small businesses. Reducing taxes benefits small businesses. Nothing that the democratic party has demonstratively done would indicate they support small businesses.
Creating Jobs for America?s Young People
Those jobs now exist. In fact under president trump there will be 80,000 new slots in America's military. Because Mr Trump has tightened up our borders, illegal immigrants are no longer around in as great a number so more jobs are available for us, Americans, not some other "Can." The strong business growth is gobbling up workers at a rate not seen in what, four decades? How did that happen? Well Mr. Obama said last week that this explosive growth is a result of his administration. Bull Crap. Democrats ran this nation into the ground and was busy at pushing her off a cliff! But a hard talking street fighter landed a good one in your better than though attitude and America came back. Democrats do not create anything except obstructionism, conspiracy, investigation after investigation, and things like the KKK and slavery. You Democrats did it, you have always been evil, and now you have to own it. A bunch of inexperienced college kids and privileged brats are not going to make any of that history go away.
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