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I'm frugal by nature so that's kept me from sending $1 down range with each trigger pull.... so i've stuck to .223/5.56, however my dream rifle has been calling my name.Hark, Hark Stewie. Purchase me and you shall be complete. Pip Pip Cheerio!There is an M1A with my name on it out there. IMO, its the most gorgeous rifle ever created and after shooting one, i want one. Give me the wood stock with an optic and a 20 round mag and i consider that utter beauty.What i find hideous is the cost to feed that object of ballistic desire. I've got the land to be able to send cash down to around 800 yards with ease, so what's stopping me?Can I justify the move to .308 when my 18" .223 wylde can send 77 gr's out to 600? Im not sure....
So, Bobby...being the calculating trained warrior NCO that you are. Take the appropriate action, Execute!
your standard grunt level CQB is just putting rounds and rounds on scary stuff till it stops scaring you!
Ah, Don't listen to him ^^^ He's just a grunt who is trained in the use of battle rifles at all ranges and wicks out bad guys like a swamp cagin swattin' bugs!Naw take the advice of a pilot who on a good day can identify a rifle three outta four times!
Interesting you should mention that Bobby. A few nights ago I heard a Blackhawk beating the air coming towards my weekend place/hide. I'm in the middle of nowhere east texas piney woods and it was eerie. Very low and then pulled up from about what I'd estimate 200ft to 1000 ft just as it began flying over my property. Perhaps the big campfire made them want to pull up a bit. Dunno but it was pitch black and I definitely recognized that beat. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Quote from: stewie on December 30, 2016, 09:57:14 AMI'm frugal by nature so that's kept me from sending $1 down range with each trigger pull.... so i've stuck to .223/5.56, however my dream rifle has been calling my name.Hark, Hark Stewie. Purchase me and you shall be complete. Pip Pip Cheerio!There is an M1A with my name on it out there. IMO, its the most gorgeous rifle ever created and after shooting one, i want one. Give me the wood stock with an optic and a 20 round mag and i consider that utter beauty.What i find hideous is the cost to feed that object of ballistic desire. I've got the land to be able to send cash down to around 800 yards with ease, so what's stopping me?Can I justify the move to .308 when my 18" .223 wylde can send 77 gr's out to 600? Im not sure....I think 600 meters with a 5.56 is a joke.You have to do all sorts of science and so forth to have any of that make sense.It's a .22Not wanting to rain on your parade, but ever check out what the russians think of our .22 battle rifle?When they evaluated the standard (older) M193 ammo, they found it to be effective out to about 95 meters for man sized killing rounds.Compare that to their 7.62 X 39 shooting a 122 or 123 grain FMJ and they find the same effects at around 250 meters.You have to amp up the .22 with powder, exotic bullets and then deal with a round which is light and can be played with by a cross wind and all you have is some wishful thinking.Now on the flip side if you want to dust ground hogs or paper or something like that, and have fun, then the .22 is just fine. My fav round from my childhood was the .220 swift. I shot .22's long distance once killing a buzzard at several hundred meters in gusty conditions.But if you want to lay some solid smack down and forgo all the plinkin' then the 7.62 X 51 if the round of choice. I own two, my M1A with the national match barrel and standard GI stock, and my 716 Sig. I have fitted each with 25-30 round mags and scopes, and I don't worry about the range or what I'm shooting at, I just shoot it.The M21 or M1A is a handful to tote around, I like my Sig better for that. But the M21 smokes the sig or any other gun when it comes to classic looks, and a forged steel kinda reliability. It's like the footer and thick foundation walls of a great home. Just always there, always solid, never hear anything about it, it just works all the time.If you want one, life is short. And that's a gun that you'll be proud of passing on. How many M1A's have been carved up, dismantled, lost, forgotten about or remain unused:Answer: None!Get a Springfield and enjoy it. And know that to this day, US Infantry are still carrying that battle rifle in combat. To this day it is still sending our enemies to hell!
the other option is the ar-10. the manual of arms is the same as an ar-15 which means my wife and eventually my daughter wont have to flip the script if they ever had to grab one.i am not looking for a precision tac driver - i am all about minute of man/meat. If i can drop something @ 600+ ill be happy.
I tried to stick to the question and just get him into 308 cheap by suggesting he reload. :-0but now that the lid is off that genie bottle....Minute of scumbag at 600 can be done by any off the shelf AR10, especially if you roll your own and develop a recipie that shoots well in your weapon. For impatient guys like me, I don't want to work too hard at getting proficient with a crappy trigger. No matter what you get, invest in a good trigger, whether that be a giessele or a timney or jewel. it will make you a much better shooter quickly.As funds and desire materialize you can build a better upper to increase accuracy.Enjoy!
Stewie, after my "one piece at a time" process and adding up cost, this (see below link) might be the way I'd go were I to do it all over again. Add in shipping costs etc. and I'm saving a couple to six hundred - so some food for thought. http://www.gaprecision.net/ga-precision-2016-custom-rifles/ga-precision-gap-10-g2.htmlIn the long run, if it shoots like I think it will, I end up with something unique that I get a big grin outta whenever I take it out to play!
I shoot lefty as well, so my parts list addresses ambi needs as well. I just live with flames shooting out near my face, as lefty actions are rare/pricey!
ambi safety and charging handle is all i roll with these days.
Since Ken loves Hildabeast, that makes him a Lefty don't it?
Quote from: stewie on January 01, 2017, 11:21:00 AMambi safety and charging handle is all i roll with these days.This is how I operate as a left shooter & I never added the mag release to my newer glock either. After so many years I just figure I've made due this long. I do think we should start a lefty shooters support group & petition congress to fund it so we can buy more ammo......
Well, you guys got me again. I went and ordered an upper from AIM. Heck for $500 it is a smoking deal and should get me into it for under $750.http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=XPF30820U8459920&name=Alexandria+PRO-FAB+.308%2f7.62X51+Upper+Receiver+Group+20in.+Barrel&groupid=7810&fprdct=1